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From Ryan Rawson <ryano...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSSION] Accumulo, another BigTable clone, has shown up on Apache Incubator as a proposal
Date Sat, 03 Sep 2011 07:17:28 GMT
My understanding is that the ASF is about community, not code. So what
is the goal for Accumulo?  Build a community. How much would it
intersect with the HBase community?  Sounds like a lot.  Does it still
make sense to incubate it then?

To the point earlier that ASF has hosted multiple competitors of
various core projects, notably httpd, I had a look, there is exactly 2
projects that serve HTTP exclusively:
Apache HTTPD
Apache Traffic Server

But these 2 are complementary, although some features kind of overlap
(mod_proxy for eg), they dont really compete directly.

So, would the ASF allow incubation of a web server product, for
example nginx (which is a direct httpd competitor)?  If the answer is
"no either work with the httpd community or go elsewhere", then sure
Accumulo should have the same treatment?


On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 12:00 AM, Bernd Fondermann
<bernd.fondermann@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, September 3, 2011, Andrew Purtell <apurtell@apache.org> wrote:
>>> I'm simply pointing out a lack of community involvement to date.
>> I would only add to this that the incubation proposal makes a
> controversial statement regarding existing involvement with the HBase
> community. It may be technically true if a certain company with involvement
> in HBase has also been interacting with "Accumulo", but is disingenuous to
> claim that the "community" has been involved here.
>> It looks like strictly a one way street: They have been able to observe or
> borrow the fruits of our labor for years, and now at a suitable point wish
> to incubate at the ASF to compete with our project for community. That is
> not "community involvement". That is leeching.
> are you saying that the proposal is actually some kind of HBase fork?
> And, isn't this 'competition' already happening between all the BT and
> Dynamo implementations?
> I fail to see anything bad happening here.
>  Bernd

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