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From Lars George <lars.geo...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: HBase move to Apache Top Level Project
Date Fri, 23 Apr 2010 07:24:45 GMT
Hey Todd,

I meant the package shift to o.a.h here, not cleaning up all the code itself :)

But yes, that is what I meant, get together, not doing fun stuff but
project related management and organisation.

Lars

On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Todd Lipcon <todd@cloudera.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Lars George <lars.george@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> +1 on all of the above. I think with becoming a TLP it is of utmost
>> importance to throw down a perfect start, i.e. clean code, clean
>> website (!), clean build process, and a clear strategy on versioning,
>> roadmap etc. We have all the passion and intricate knowledge to do
>> that. I suggest that the Bay Area devs all get together and establish
>> this in one fell swoop.
>
>
> +1 - I don't think we can accomplish all of the above all at once (clean
> code???) but it would be nice to have a hackathon day where we force
> ourselves to only do spring cleaning and roadmapping (and not talk about fun
> problems).
>
> Pretty sure we could host at the new Cloudera office in Palo Alto - we have
> a lot of space, and close to caltrain.
>
>
>> We have put of polishing way to long IMHO and
>> hopefully Ryan can get something moving with the site, if not it
>> should be organized differently now now. I am sure one of us the
>> contacts to make this happen, heck I throw in a hundred bucks if that
>> helps. I cannot imagine getting someone doing a current design while
>> integrating the established content is such a big thing.
>>
>> Let us show the world what a few determined "nerds" (in the positive
>> sense) can achieve!
>>
>> Lars
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 8:44 AM, Jonathan Gray <jgray@facebook.com> wrote:
>> > Yay HBase!
>> >
>> > I am also interested in this.
>> >
>> > Now might also be the time to think about breaking from hadoop numbering
>> (I think this idea has been floating around since the first version we
>> synced).
>> >
>> > We've already agreed to break client compatibility for 0.20.5 and it's
>> more than a minor revision.  And I'm sure we'll have another release between
>> 0.20.5 and 0.21.
>> >
>> > It's also clear that this is going to be by far our most solid release to
>> date and so might be worthy of new shiny versioning/packaging as a TLP.
>>  Website/docs/wiki refresher to boot.
>> >
>> > Changing the package names is way more invasive to client code but I'm
>> always +1 on making stuff shorter.
>> >
>> >
>> > Anyways, I'm not doing much production cluster maintenance these days so
>> these changes would impact me way less than others.  Will welcome pushback
>> if you guys don't want to deal with this.
>> >
>> > JG
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Ryan Rawson [mailto:ryanobjc@gmail.com]
>> >> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 11:20 PM
>> >> To: hbase-dev@hadoop.apache.org
>> >> Subject: Re: HBase move to Apache Top Level Project
>> >>
>> >> I am somewhat interested in this :-)
>> >>
>> >> But it can make life difficult for our users... thoughts people?
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 11:17 PM, Karthik K <oss.akk@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > This is great news. Congrats HBase team.
>> >> >
>> >> > (Does this mean, the packages would be refactored as o.a.hbase.* in
>> >> the
>> >> > trunk ? ).
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> >  Karthik.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 10:47 PM, Cosmin Lehene <clehene@adobe.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> This is great news!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Apr 22, 2010, at 8:32 PM, Stack wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > The board yesterday passed a resolution making HBase a TLP.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I filed an infrastructure issue to start the move:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2641
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The primary disruption to developers will be when the subversion
>> >> >> > repository is renamed.  We'll send out a note before we do
this,
>> >> then
>> >> >> > developers can use 'svn switch' to update their repos (There
is no
>> >> >> > apache git repo that I know of... I asked just in case)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> We already use the apache git.apache.org mirror for HBase. I've
also
>> >> seen
>> >> >> the GitHub mirror http://github.com/apache/hbase and thought there
>> >> might
>> >> >> be some plans for migration.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > One other issue is the wiki.  I don't think it's easy to
rename a
>> >> >> > subtree from a Moin Moin wiki to a new wiki.  Fortunately
we don't
>> >> >> > have many wiki pages and could cut and paste them manually.
>> >> >> > Alternately, we could switch to using confluence for our wiki.
>> >> >> > Thoughts?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> Confluence has a good integration with Jira (being both developed
by
>> >> >> Atlassian). It's functionally advanced and looks better. So +1
for
>> >> that as
>> >> >> well.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Cosmin
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > St.Ack
>> >> >> > (Above shamelessly a copy of Doug's mail to the Avro list)
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Todd Lipcon
> Software Engineer, Cloudera
>

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