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From "Laurence Hubert" <Laurence.Hub...@free.fr>
Subject Re: Google patent over Map Reduce - Hbase reflections
Date Thu, 21 Jan 2010 11:33:29 GMT
Dear all,

I think the impact of this patent should not be underestimated. If 
Hadoop/HBase is only an educational system and not used by anybody for any 
business then I agree there is no threat to the community...
but if companies are relaying on it to do business (and some started to 
evaluate the use of Hadoop/HBase in commercial systems) then the companies 
businesses or products might be threatened. This means, unless something is 
done, companies cannot select Hadoop/HBase anymore for implementations 
because this is too much of a risk... which is in fact the biggest threat to 
hadoop... it was becoming popular and companies started to consider 
supporting it (providing development resources...) because this was a 
possible platform for their businesses...

In my opinion a healthy attitude to this would be to analyse what was 
actually *really* protected and be creative on how hadoop could/should 
differentiate. Because if hadoop is just a 1:1 replica of the Google system, 
then there is no chance that it will attract more than the academic 
community and its nice success story is going to end here... I see enough 
intellectual power in the team to be able to take the Google patent and 
produce the next generation...

My two cents,
Laurence Hubert

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kay Kay" <kaykay.unique@gmail.com>
To: <hbase-dev@hadoop.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 3:28 AM
Subject: Re: Google patent over Map Reduce - Hbase reflections

> On 1/20/10 3:44 PM, stack wrote:
>> I've been following the thread.  I would tend to side with the general 
>> tenor
>> that has it that its likely a just-in-case move by Google and that the
>> likelihood of a Google suing Apache is not likely to happen in this
>> dimension.
> That was my general idea as well.
>> Are you (or your employer) spooked Kay Kay?
> Not at all - but just started this to see what the opinions of the
> community might be w.r.t. this.
>> St.Ack
>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Kay Kay<kaykay.unique@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>> A big thread currently going on at the hadoop common user mailing list -
>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/hadoop-common-user/201001.mbox/<
>>> 2c36b701001200817g77f245b1x6ba9d7d2cfd9ec93@mail.gmail.com>  .
>>> A good number of you might have already seen that thread, but just 
>>> opening
>>> up a thread for discussion to see what the thoughts of the community are 
>>> ,
>>> w.r.t. patent and how much (if at all) of the application would be 
>>> related
>>> to that / any refactorings as necessary as seen by the team or thoughts 
>>> in
>>> general to the same.


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