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From Lav Jain <lav.j...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Apache HAWQ & Pivotal HDB release alignment
Date Thu, 16 Feb 2017 19:10:28 GMT
+1

Misaligned versions are always a source of major confusion.

On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Shivram Mani <shivram.mani@gmail.com>
wrote:

> +1
> I don't see any negative impact in bumping up the version to 2.2. The
> positive outcome from this is that we will have more frequent apache HAWQ
> releases since majority of the committers who happen to also work on HDB
> will be focussed on apache release as the primary release channel.
>
> On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 1:25 AM, Michael Pearce <Michael.Pearce@ig.com>
> wrote:
>
> > -1
> >
> > Whilst I agree that version alignment is important for Pivotal and users
> > of HDB (my own self being a HDP client).
> >
> > We have to remember this is an open source Apache project and Pivotal are
> > providing a downstream supported version, surely this should be a case of
> > Pivotal aligning to the Apache Version, not the other-way around.
> >
> > Likewise, if any other company wished to provide a supported bundle of
> > HAWQ, then I wouldn’t expect the open source Apache project to change
> their
> > versioning for a commercial enterprise. I see this much the same way
> > multiple companies support postgres.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Mike
> >
> > On 16/02/2017, 06:06, "Lili Ma" <lilima@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >     +1 for version alignment
> >
> >     2017-02-16 13:43 GMT+08:00 Ruilong Huo <rhuo@pivotal.io>:
> >
> >     > Looks a good plan for the version alignment. +1
> >     >
> >     > Best regards,
> >     > Ruilong Huo
> >     >
> >     > On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 1:09 PM, Yandong Yao <yyao@pivotal.io>
> > wrote:
> >     >
> >     > > +1 for consistence
> >     > >
> >     > > On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Ed Espino <espino@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >     > >
> >     > > > +1 to this recommendation. It has been a bit confusing keeping
> > track of
> >     > > > versions. The Apache HAWQ version update is fairly simple. Now
> > is the
> >     > > time
> >     > > > to make such an update. I imagine it will get harder the more
> > time
> >     > passes
> >     > > > on and the more the community grows.
> >     > > >
> >     > > > This will impact Jira versioning for our upcoming Apache HAWQ
> >     > incubating
> >     > > > release. I will take care of that as part of the release
> process.
> >     > > >
> >     > > > Thanks,
> >     > > > -=e
> >     > > >
> >     > > > On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 5:00 PM, Vineet Goel <
> vvineet@apache.org
> > >
> >     > wrote:
> >     > > >
> >     > > > > Hi HAWQ dev community,
> >     > > > >
> >     > > > >
> >     > > > > Over the last few months, many users in the HAWQ community
> have
> >     > > expressed
> >     > > > > confusion about Apache HAWQ incubating release versions
as
> > compared
> >     > to
> >     > > > > Pivotal HDB release version numbering. Since Pivotal’s
> > donation of
> >     > HAWQ
> >     > > > > codebase to Apache in September 2015, the community has
> grown,
> > and
> >     > > users
> >     > > > of
> >     > > > > Apache HAWQ as well as HDB have participated and sought
help
> > from the
> >     > > > HAWQ
> >     > > > > dev/user community via mailing lists.
> >     > > > >
> >     > > > >
> >     > > > > With my Pivotal representation on this topic, I’m proposing
> > Pivotal
> >     > > team
> >     > > > to
> >     > > > > make an effort to align commercial releases of HDB based
on
> > Apache
> >     > HAWQ
> >     > > > > releases as much as possible. And, as part of the proposal,
> the
> >     > > > commercial
> >     > > > > HDB versions should also be aligned with the Apache HAWQ
> > release
> >     > > > > versioning. The net result of this alignment at Pivotal
will
> > likely
> >     > > > result
> >     > > > > in higher Apache HAWQ release cadence and collaboration,
plus
> > lesser
> >     > > user
> >     > > > > confusion. I have seen this model work well in other Apache
> >     > communities
> >     > > > > like Apache Ambari and more, in conjunction with the
> respective
> >     > > > commercial
> >     > > > > releases.
> >     > > > >
> >     > > > >
> >     > > > > Such an alignment on the versioning could quickly be achieved
> > by
> >     > doing
> >     > > a
> >     > > > > one-time version bump of upcoming Apache HAWQ release to
> > 2.2.0.0
> >     > > (versus
> >     > > > > 2.1.0.0) as there is no way to lower the version on the
other
> > end.
> >     > > Would
> >     > > > > the community & the Release Manager support such a version
> > string
> >     > > change
> >     > > > to
> >     > > > > help Pivotal align their HDB releases to Apache HAWQ
> releases?
> > I
> >     > > believe
> >     > > > > such an alignment will benefit the joint user community
> >     > significantly.
> >     > > > >
> >     > > > >
> >     > > > > Regards,
> >     > > > >
> >     > > > > Vineet
> >     > > > >
> >     > > >
> >     > > >
> >     > > >
> >     > > > --
> >     > > > *Ed Espino*
> >     > > > *espino@apache.org <espino@apache.org>*
> >     > > >
> >     > >
> >     > >
> >     > >
> >     > > --
> >     > > Best Regards,
> >     > > Yandong
> >     > >
> >     >
> >
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> --
> shivram mani
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