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From Shivram Mani <shivram.m...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Apache HAWQ & Pivotal HDB release alignment
Date Thu, 16 Feb 2017 18:33:23 GMT
+1
I don't see any negative impact in bumping up the version to 2.2. The
positive outcome from this is that we will have more frequent apache HAWQ
releases since majority of the committers who happen to also work on HDB
will be focussed on apache release as the primary release channel.

On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 1:25 AM, Michael Pearce <Michael.Pearce@ig.com>
wrote:

> -1
>
> Whilst I agree that version alignment is important for Pivotal and users
> of HDB (my own self being a HDP client).
>
> We have to remember this is an open source Apache project and Pivotal are
> providing a downstream supported version, surely this should be a case of
> Pivotal aligning to the Apache Version, not the other-way around.
>
> Likewise, if any other company wished to provide a supported bundle of
> HAWQ, then I wouldn’t expect the open source Apache project to change their
> versioning for a commercial enterprise. I see this much the same way
> multiple companies support postgres.
>
> Cheers
> Mike
>
> On 16/02/2017, 06:06, "Lili Ma" <lilima@apache.org> wrote:
>
>     +1 for version alignment
>
>     2017-02-16 13:43 GMT+08:00 Ruilong Huo <rhuo@pivotal.io>:
>
>     > Looks a good plan for the version alignment. +1
>     >
>     > Best regards,
>     > Ruilong Huo
>     >
>     > On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 1:09 PM, Yandong Yao <yyao@pivotal.io>
> wrote:
>     >
>     > > +1 for consistence
>     > >
>     > > On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Ed Espino <espino@apache.org>
> wrote:
>     > >
>     > > > +1 to this recommendation. It has been a bit confusing keeping
> track of
>     > > > versions. The Apache HAWQ version update is fairly simple. Now
> is the
>     > > time
>     > > > to make such an update. I imagine it will get harder the more
> time
>     > passes
>     > > > on and the more the community grows.
>     > > >
>     > > > This will impact Jira versioning for our upcoming Apache HAWQ
>     > incubating
>     > > > release. I will take care of that as part of the release process.
>     > > >
>     > > > Thanks,
>     > > > -=e
>     > > >
>     > > > On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 5:00 PM, Vineet Goel <vvineet@apache.org
> >
>     > wrote:
>     > > >
>     > > > > Hi HAWQ dev community,
>     > > > >
>     > > > >
>     > > > > Over the last few months, many users in the HAWQ community have
>     > > expressed
>     > > > > confusion about Apache HAWQ incubating release versions as
> compared
>     > to
>     > > > > Pivotal HDB release version numbering. Since Pivotal’s
> donation of
>     > HAWQ
>     > > > > codebase to Apache in September 2015, the community has grown,
> and
>     > > users
>     > > > of
>     > > > > Apache HAWQ as well as HDB have participated and sought help
> from the
>     > > > HAWQ
>     > > > > dev/user community via mailing lists.
>     > > > >
>     > > > >
>     > > > > With my Pivotal representation on this topic, I’m proposing
> Pivotal
>     > > team
>     > > > to
>     > > > > make an effort to align commercial releases of HDB based on
> Apache
>     > HAWQ
>     > > > > releases as much as possible. And, as part of the proposal, the
>     > > > commercial
>     > > > > HDB versions should also be aligned with the Apache HAWQ
> release
>     > > > > versioning. The net result of this alignment at Pivotal will
> likely
>     > > > result
>     > > > > in higher Apache HAWQ release cadence and collaboration, plus
> lesser
>     > > user
>     > > > > confusion. I have seen this model work well in other Apache
>     > communities
>     > > > > like Apache Ambari and more, in conjunction with the respective
>     > > > commercial
>     > > > > releases.
>     > > > >
>     > > > >
>     > > > > Such an alignment on the versioning could quickly be achieved
> by
>     > doing
>     > > a
>     > > > > one-time version bump of upcoming Apache HAWQ release to
> 2.2.0.0
>     > > (versus
>     > > > > 2.1.0.0) as there is no way to lower the version on the other
> end.
>     > > Would
>     > > > > the community & the Release Manager support such a version
> string
>     > > change
>     > > > to
>     > > > > help Pivotal align their HDB releases to Apache HAWQ releases?
> I
>     > > believe
>     > > > > such an alignment will benefit the joint user community
>     > significantly.
>     > > > >
>     > > > >
>     > > > > Regards,
>     > > > >
>     > > > > Vineet
>     > > > >
>     > > >
>     > > >
>     > > >
>     > > > --
>     > > > *Ed Espino*
>     > > > *espino@apache.org <espino@apache.org>*
>     > > >
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >
>     > > --
>     > > Best Regards,
>     > > Yandong
>     > >
>     >
>
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shivram mani

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