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From Ed Espino <esp...@apache.org>
Subject Re: About Apache HAWQ home page
Date Tue, 17 Jan 2017 16:31:38 GMT
ASF FTW!

I know the website code is relatively easy to update.  I helped with the
initial software download update to the website.  I contributed a very
small change but I did have a very high-level review of the layout several
months ago.

-=e

On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 8:25 AM, Gregory Chase <gchase@pivotal.io> wrote:

> You can share website code as well as regular code if its under an Apache
> V2 license.
>
> We liked the CouchDB template as a starting point because it is a fairly
> pleasing design, scrolls well for mobile viewing, and looks easy to
> maintain.
>
> -Greg
>
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 8:03 AM, Ed Espino <espino@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Ahhh ... that's where it came from. Aside from the content, the layout is
> > virtually identical between the two projects (Apache CouchDB
> > <http://couchdb.apache.org/> and Apache HAWQ <http://hawq.apache.org/>)!
> >
> > -=e
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 7:56 AM, Greg Chase <greg@gregchase.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Having helped create the initial HAWQ design, the basic format was
> lifted
> > > from the CouchDB site.  For the "More" section, we removed redundant or
> > > unneeded links, and just left some of the Apache related information.
> > >
> > > Other than the incubator logo and message, I don't know what else is
> > > "required" to keep. However I think they are all "nice to have".
> > >
> > > They don't need to be in their own section.  You can always move them
> to
> > > another part oft he page.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 7:20 AM, Ed Espino <espino@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yandong,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for moving this to the dev list for discussion.  Any chance
> Tim
> > is
> > > > a member of the HAWQ dev community? If not, any chance we can invite
> > him
> > > to
> > > > the discussion. He's one extremely valuable and knowledgeable
> > individual
> > > (
> > > > https://medium.com/tradecraft-traction/64-people-you-
> > > > should-know-in-design-f28cf3c2cfaa#.gjrsa3av7)!
> > > >
> > > > Again, I do not have much context on the design decisions of the
> > current
> > > > HAWQ website so I might be a bit off with my responses to your three
> > > items.
> > > >
> > > > 1) Remove 'More...' link and corresponding section
> > > >
> > > > I don't like the idea of removing the "More" section completely.  The
> > > > section points to the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) links. Many
> > other
> > > > Apache projects have similar sections.  However, they are named
> > > something a
> > > > bit more appropriately than "More".  Here are a few examples.
> > > >
> > > >    - Menu name: "Apache" (right most top-level menu item) -
> > > >    http://cloudstack.apache.org/ <http://cloudstack.apache.org/>
> > > >    - Menu name: "Apache Software Foundation" (right most top-level
> menu
> > > >    item) - https://accumulo.apache.org/
> > > >
> > > > Feel free to review additional Apache project home pages (
> > > > https://projects.apache.org/projects.html) to get a feel for the
> > > > significance of having ASF links (many forms: nav bar, drop-down
> list,
> > > > footer links, etc).
> > > >
> > > > Option: I'd suggest we rename the section from "More" to "Apache" and
> > > > leave it at the far right end.
> > > >
> > > > 2) Move 'Doc' link to the end of the tab list
> > > >
> > > > If it is moved, I would move it to the menu section just to the left
> of
> > > > the "More" (hopefully renamed) menu item.
> > > >
> > > > 3) Change 'Source' in download section to a link, instead of using a
> > big
> > > > blue button.
> > > >
> > > > Even though we have a single download at the current time, as the
> > project
> > > > starts releasing more artifacts (source and binary), it will be
> > important
> > > > for visitors to select different release versions.  I believe the
> page
> > is
> > > > designed to support multiple download pages.  I'm in favor of leaving
> > it
> > > as
> > > > is for the time being.
> > > >
> > > > Additional considerations:
> > > >
> > > >    - The top-level menu item changes to a drop down menu as the web
> > page
> > > >    is resized (mobile device support). If we rename/reposition items,
> > > this
> > > >    would have to be taken into account.  See attached screenshots for
> > > nav bar
> > > >    and drop-down menu reference.
> > > >    - Similarly, the page flow is consistent with the nav bar menu
> item
> > > >    flow. The page may have to be adjusted to account for this.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > -=e
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 11:51 PM, Yandong Yao <yyao@pivotal.io>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> +dev@hawq for broader discussion
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 3:41 PM, Ed Espino <espino@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Probably helpful to push this to the dev list for discussion on
a
> new
> > > >>> thread.  I don't have much if any context on the current layout
but
> > > other
> > > >>> dev members might.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I need to remind myself all the time ... we are growing a "dev
> > > >>> community" ... "dev community" ... "dev community" ... "dev
> > community".
> > > >>> Especially as you listed "who could help to make those changes"?
 I
> > > believe
> > > >>> any committer in the community is capable of performing this work
(
> > > >>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-hawq-site.git
> ).
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -=e
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 11:23 PM, Yandong Yao <yyao@pivotal.io>
> > wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> A few comments
> > > >>>> ​about HAWQ home page ​
> > > >>>> after talked with Tim
> > > >>>> ​who is experienced UX guy
> > > >>>> :
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> 1) Remove 'More...' link and corresponding section
> > > >>>> 2) Move 'Doc' link to the end of the tab list
> > > >>>> 3) Change 'Source' in download section to a link, instead
of
> using a
> > > >>>> big blue button.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Who could help to make those changes?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > *Ed Espino*
> > > > *espino@apache.org <espino@apache.org>*
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > *Ed Espino*
> > *espino@apache.org <espino@apache.org>*
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Greg Chase
>
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*Ed Espino*
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