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From Gregory Chase <gch...@pivotal.io>
Subject Re: About Apache HAWQ home page
Date Tue, 17 Jan 2017 16:25:06 GMT
You can share website code as well as regular code if its under an Apache
V2 license.

We liked the CouchDB template as a starting point because it is a fairly
pleasing design, scrolls well for mobile viewing, and looks easy to
maintain.

-Greg

On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 8:03 AM, Ed Espino <espino@apache.org> wrote:

> Ahhh ... that's where it came from. Aside from the content, the layout is
> virtually identical between the two projects (Apache CouchDB
> <http://couchdb.apache.org/> and Apache HAWQ <http://hawq.apache.org/>)!
>
> -=e
>
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 7:56 AM, Greg Chase <greg@gregchase.com> wrote:
>
> > Having helped create the initial HAWQ design, the basic format was lifted
> > from the CouchDB site.  For the "More" section, we removed redundant or
> > unneeded links, and just left some of the Apache related information.
> >
> > Other than the incubator logo and message, I don't know what else is
> > "required" to keep. However I think they are all "nice to have".
> >
> > They don't need to be in their own section.  You can always move them to
> > another part oft he page.
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 7:20 AM, Ed Espino <espino@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Yandong,
> > >
> > > Thanks for moving this to the dev list for discussion.  Any chance Tim
> is
> > > a member of the HAWQ dev community? If not, any chance we can invite
> him
> > to
> > > the discussion. He's one extremely valuable and knowledgeable
> individual
> > (
> > > https://medium.com/tradecraft-traction/64-people-you-
> > > should-know-in-design-f28cf3c2cfaa#.gjrsa3av7)!
> > >
> > > Again, I do not have much context on the design decisions of the
> current
> > > HAWQ website so I might be a bit off with my responses to your three
> > items.
> > >
> > > 1) Remove 'More...' link and corresponding section
> > >
> > > I don't like the idea of removing the "More" section completely.  The
> > > section points to the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) links. Many
> other
> > > Apache projects have similar sections.  However, they are named
> > something a
> > > bit more appropriately than "More".  Here are a few examples.
> > >
> > >    - Menu name: "Apache" (right most top-level menu item) -
> > >    http://cloudstack.apache.org/ <http://cloudstack.apache.org/>
> > >    - Menu name: "Apache Software Foundation" (right most top-level menu
> > >    item) - https://accumulo.apache.org/
> > >
> > > Feel free to review additional Apache project home pages (
> > > https://projects.apache.org/projects.html) to get a feel for the
> > > significance of having ASF links (many forms: nav bar, drop-down list,
> > > footer links, etc).
> > >
> > > Option: I'd suggest we rename the section from "More" to "Apache" and
> > > leave it at the far right end.
> > >
> > > 2) Move 'Doc' link to the end of the tab list
> > >
> > > If it is moved, I would move it to the menu section just to the left of
> > > the "More" (hopefully renamed) menu item.
> > >
> > > 3) Change 'Source' in download section to a link, instead of using a
> big
> > > blue button.
> > >
> > > Even though we have a single download at the current time, as the
> project
> > > starts releasing more artifacts (source and binary), it will be
> important
> > > for visitors to select different release versions.  I believe the page
> is
> > > designed to support multiple download pages.  I'm in favor of leaving
> it
> > as
> > > is for the time being.
> > >
> > > Additional considerations:
> > >
> > >    - The top-level menu item changes to a drop down menu as the web
> page
> > >    is resized (mobile device support). If we rename/reposition items,
> > this
> > >    would have to be taken into account.  See attached screenshots for
> > nav bar
> > >    and drop-down menu reference.
> > >    - Similarly, the page flow is consistent with the nav bar menu item
> > >    flow. The page may have to be adjusted to account for this.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > -=e
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 11:51 PM, Yandong Yao <yyao@pivotal.io> wrote:
> > >
> > >> +dev@hawq for broader discussion
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 3:41 PM, Ed Espino <espino@apache.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Probably helpful to push this to the dev list for discussion on a new
> > >>> thread.  I don't have much if any context on the current layout but
> > other
> > >>> dev members might.
> > >>>
> > >>> I need to remind myself all the time ... we are growing a "dev
> > >>> community" ... "dev community" ... "dev community" ... "dev
> community".
> > >>> Especially as you listed "who could help to make those changes"?  I
> > believe
> > >>> any committer in the community is capable of performing this work (
> > >>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-hawq-site.git).
> > >>>
> > >>> -=e
> > >>>
> > >>> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 11:23 PM, Yandong Yao <yyao@pivotal.io>
> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> A few comments
> > >>>> ​about HAWQ home page ​
> > >>>> after talked with Tim
> > >>>> ​who is experienced UX guy
> > >>>> :
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 1) Remove 'More...' link and corresponding section
> > >>>> 2) Move 'Doc' link to the end of the tab list
> > >>>> 3) Change 'Source' in download section to a link, instead of using
a
> > >>>> big blue button.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Who could help to make those changes?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > *Ed Espino*
> > > *espino@apache.org <espino@apache.org>*
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> *Ed Espino*
> *espino@apache.org <espino@apache.org>*
>



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