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From theUser BL <theuse...@hotmail.com>
Subject German Java developer are angry about Oracle
Date Sat, 21 Aug 2010 13:56:17 GMT

Hi!
 
I already have send this news the day before yesterday to OSNews.com. But it is still not
published. Also I have send it to Slashdot.
But I think it could this could be interesting for you and if it is published on OSNews or
Slashdot it is then old. In germany the news was on the different news-sides, but not on international
news sides.
 
Greatings
theuserbl


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The german iJUG (interest-network of Java User Groups) have published its statement about
Oracle:
http://www.ijug.eu/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=22:java-entwickler-sind-veraergert-ueber-die-informationspolitik-von-oracle&catid=2:news&Itemid=4

The german iJUG is a umbrella organization of nine german Java User Groups and a german Oracle
User Group.

The iJUG criticised that on the last events of Oracle nothing was said about the future of
Java.
Additional the common Blogs and Twitter places publishing a lot of lesser informations.

A different problem is seen, that Oracle don't say anything about the relationship between
its OpenSource products and the commercial variants like on GlassFish. "Oracle always say,
its the same products with different license", said iJUG board member and leader of the Java
User Group Erlangen/N├╝rnberg Oliver Szymanski, "but currently don't exists a evidence for
it". Additional the behavior with OpenJDK7 and the future of JDK7 is unclear.

After the disappointed session of Oracle on the Java Forum Stattgart in Germany it stand in
discussion, if the Java-Community should take the future of Java in its own hand. "For example
you could much stronger agree for a further stage of OpenJDK", said Tobias Frech from the
Java User Group Stuttgart. "JavaFX wants the community as OpenSource, too, to have the possibility
to further develop it".

Kristian Rink from the Java User Group Saxony thinks to the same direction: "The technical
aspects of the JVM should be within the scope of the JCP completly from the community and
interested stakeholder done." For the JVM and JDK should be - in his opinion - the existing
Sun-implementation as product-proof implementation by an Oracle-extern, open and company-independend
unit like Apache or the Eclipse realised, which besiedes long-term ensuring of availability
both technologies for development/evolution and priduct-distribution, additional respect the
interests of the stakeholder in technical details and realizing it, without to be too much
handicapped with the own product- and project-planing.

Concretely the users have questions like:
- Will be Java in the future further on created within the JCP? When yes, when will be a JSR
for Java 7 start?
- Comming license-changes for the Java runtime, the JDK or JavaFX, especially with a view
of the current lawsuit Oracle/Google?
- What plans Oracle to do long-term with duplications of much programs under one roof (GlassFish
/ WebLogic, Sun JDK / JRockit, Netbeans / JDeveloper)?
- Will Oracle be hold the Sun-policy, to not deploy its own patent rights against Open-Source-implementations?
- What happens with the Java Store? 
- What happens with the former Sun employees?

The Java-Community is relative big and heterogeneous. There exists lot of commercial and non-commercail
units, which its business operations, projects and activities have based on Java as the current
ecosystem and which have hence a legitimate interest to have a continuousness of the status
quo.
Java-developer telling however the iJUG permanent about project, where the use of Java would
be sensible, but because of different reasons fail and other technologies have been used.
"We giving Oracle time until the JavaOne on september", Fried Saacke sum up. "If there will
be nothing satisfiable communicated, we will think about alternative strategies."

The iJUG have already spoken with Oracle about the mentioned problems and the company have
appreciated it. Now the user waiting urging, that the producer appropriate react. 		 	   
	  
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