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From Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedo...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [Proposal] Harmony Select Milestone One
Date Wed, 26 May 2010 08:31:57 GMT
Jimmy,
JFYI, Alexey Petrenko & company created select builds for Tomcat and
Eclipse. What will make your approach more successful?

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With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
http://www.telecom-express.ru/
http://harmony.apache.org/
http://dataved.ru/ http://klsh.ru/




2010/5/26 Jimmy,Jing Lv <firepure@gmail.com>:
> Hi Alexei Fedotov,
>
>      I don't know Alexey Petrenko's experiment, interested in that, please
> tell us if you have more information.
>
>      I agree whole cycle of application support should be very great for
> the applications - but it sounds like some commercial activities rather than
> open source development. However for open source projects, I believe it will
> be a great if we can support some real application or even become their
> default JRE, especially some hot open source Apps, as eclipse + Harmony, or
> Harmony in Android/WebOS, though they use different VM and don't come back
> much any more ;) .
>
>      I don't have any particular customers in mind, just think we'd look
> for a different and flexible solution for various of applications. What do
> you think?
>
> 2010/5/25 Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>
>
>> Jimmy, why are you doing these select builds? Alexey Petrenko have
>> shown that even the finest bundling won't make Harmony more popular.
>> People these days want usability and the whole cycle of application
>> support. Do you have a particular customer in mind?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>> http://www.telecom-express.ru/
>> http://harmony.apache.org/
>> http://dataved.ru/ http://klsh.ru/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2010/5/25 Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>:
>> > Hadoop is an interesting choice, because it is used for application
>> > hosting. Though much more common choice would be Tomcat or Jetty.
>> >
>> > --
>> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>> > http://www.telecom-express.ru/
>> > http://harmony.apache.org/
>> > http://dataved.ru/ http://klsh.ru/
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Jimmy,Jing Lv <firepure@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> Hi Everyone,
>> >>
>> >>      We are very close to publish Harmony5 M14 and Harmony6 M2, what
>> great
>> >> achievements since we created Harmony project!
>> >>
>> >>      Now we may think about something different, satisfy more
>> requirements.
>> >> Different application requirement need different JRE - it may differ
>> very
>> >> much in class-lib modules, providers, and VMs.  Harmony select, say, a
>> >> smaller, more flexible harmony runtime, may be a good candidate in such
>> >> environments. We may not follow Oracle/Sun exactly in this runtime,
>> allow
>> >> more innovations, different modules selections,  and different
>> >> functionalities to meet different requirements. We may also call for
>> more
>> >> input from real Java applications, developers, especially hot
>> open-source
>> >> projects who are the potential customers of Harmony.
>> >>
>> >>      We've already created an initial target in Harmony to build a
>> Select
>> >> binary. We remove some client-side related modules (like AWT, swing etc)
>> to
>> >> reduce the size while keep the main functionality for server side
>> >> applications. This is a startup, very far from the finial versions.
>> However
>> >> I believe we can start some milestones with defined criterion like
>> standard
>> >> Harmony.
>> >>
>> >>      For the first milestone of Harmony-Select, I suggest we'd have
>> >> following criterion:
>> >> 1. build pass on both windows/linux platforms;
>> >> 2. pass all Harmony unit testcases in the selected module on these
>> >> platforms;
>> >> 3. Choose Apache Hadoop as a real Application test, pass its common test
>> on
>> >> these platforms for the first milestone.
>> >>
>> >>      Wait for any kindly suggestions, opinions and comments.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> Best Regards!
>> >>
>> >> Jimmy, Jing Lv
>> >>
>> >
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Best Regards!
>
> Jimmy, Jing Lv
> China Software Development Lab, IBM
>

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