From dev-return-39026-apmail-harmony-dev-archive=harmony.apache.org@harmony.apache.org Wed Mar 10 00:16:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-harmony-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 52239 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2010 00:16:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 10 Mar 2010 00:16:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 58767 invoked by uid 500); 10 Mar 2010 00:15:53 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-harmony-dev-archive@harmony.apache.org Received: (qmail 58724 invoked by uid 500); 10 Mar 2010 00:15:52 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@harmony.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@harmony.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@harmony.apache.org Received: (qmail 58715 invoked by uid 99); 10 Mar 2010 00:15:52 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:15:52 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of nbeyer@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.49 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.125.82.49] (HELO mail-ww0-f49.google.com) (74.125.82.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:15:51 +0000 Received: by wwb13 with SMTP id 13so4269701wwb.36 for ; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:15:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=WSRQoIb6I9U3Or/whyvaKBv6+ncfXjSiZxkxGTwbHOQ=; b=TeHSqCQH3HQMP1fLYz/qIzN1G+01QPkpzM68XGj57X+s8j/EPxsqdIXDbi83Po6i0i Q80JYySFgfB2JrXAySJTRAMtWAjBxtLbk4Rqs0+U79JsBYHsifwHXc7TWCeGk5SbT4Cp k+JPHfg1i/eYy0fVEh2IiLKKhh++ErxIcH6YM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=IxeyeWOFFDs/okAIcq250qKrxZ+JLrj7QkMF0or7oIIvKEYdsGabhZhnzzEhtC5Tsz yf++a3EM251eIwFizwGCEh3FGqKqsXeFdsAJ4LQaYooAZsDxJhe74Idp4vI4o8ZYybBC LfI9DjwbjyTv/0kCu0Tf/80Ie8UEQsvSXCL70= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: nbeyer@gmail.com Received: by 10.216.157.1 with SMTP id n1mr378069wek.188.1268180130111; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:15:30 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201003091538.o29Fcq8a023458@d12av02.megacenter.de.ibm.com> References: <201003011850.o21IoCcw018278@d06av04.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com> <201003052117.o25LHLmx014151@d12av01.megacenter.de.ibm.com> <25aac9fc1003051528k696407f1q198446e344cd1622@mail.gmail.com> <201003061127.o26BRZC4024716@d06av02.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com> <25aac9fc1003060444j7b9b083fgdf5b2fb7b3dbfe6@mail.gmail.com> <201003062127.o26LR92D022306@d06av04.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com> <25aac9fc1003061424k3b553399pb22caa75b6d87487@mail.gmail.com> <201003091016.o29AGgig027606@d06av03.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com> <4B965407.8000609@gmail.com> <201003091538.o29Fcq8a023458@d12av02.megacenter.de.ibm.com> Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 18:15:30 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: df25b6afa818955e Message-ID: <3b3f27c61003091615v35532a30xc24cf282e7e69599@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [general] Release process (was [result][vote]Declare r917296 as 6.0M1) From: Nathan Beyer To: dev@harmony.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Mark Hindess wrote: > > In message <4B965407.8000609@gmail.com>, Tim Ellison writes: >> >> I appreciate sebb's review and comments. =C2=A0It would have been good t= o >> hear them during the two week freeze leading up to the vote rather >> than after the vote was concluded :-) > > This comment isn't entirely fair. =C2=A0Sebb's initial review comments > were about the binaries which we only created after the release was > "completed". =C2=A0This is one reason why I had more sympathy for his vie= w > that the release should be cancelled. > > I also appreciate sebb's comments. =C2=A0So, while he could have made the= m > by building our source and reviewing the resulting binaries, perhaps we > should attempt to make this kind of review easier? Don't we have binary builds coming out of Hudson periodically? > > It is tricky to see how to do this while still placing the emphasis on > voting on source releases. > > It would be more work but perhaps we should create "minimal" binaries > (one hdk bundle should be sufficient perhaps one windows and one linux) > at the start of the feature freeze period? > > Any thoughts? > > Regards, > =C2=A0Mark. > > >