Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-harmony-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 65153 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2009 09:50:17 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 22 Jul 2009 09:50:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 9894 invoked by uid 500); 22 Jul 2009 09:51:22 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-harmony-dev-archive@harmony.apache.org Received: (qmail 9819 invoked by uid 500); 22 Jul 2009 09:51:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@harmony.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@harmony.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@harmony.apache.org Received: (qmail 9808 invoked by uid 99); 22 Jul 2009 09:51:22 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 09:51:22 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of t.p.ellison@gmail.com designates 209.85.218.227 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.218.227] (HELO mail-bw0-f227.google.com) (209.85.218.227) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 09:51:11 +0000 Received: by bwz27 with SMTP id 27so66315bwz.36 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 02:50:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=qbuC1eqTnBkbva5uQ2/XsgTjdoX3xuYfCgkEVS0YJgQ=; b=XYZBlN9mA5pIR1+Q4b7MPrYhCSYw587UxwQK1xE7PS9CDqvUD1XU0cUPK4aVk0TxMF BiIqSUOSr+7Lh8V5nVeUQjTBws94OP9od7riDty0vRmG4aDcLV3uhJLCQ8rj9BHiyv/E 8G7d00kgYKtSh03YanZAuF4If9h53locbWjus= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=KvEw369vk14VmVqFvRLdM+LkeC+nj+llMFm7nVOtJfazndLPt9Ee5izxRWc1fqYtoK OZsM/FgrrvZWmQnIGZEskZijxOQANOeqNMWELkGaHE/S0S93lzsIrXusgXoHERuNYMFn 69bbgzFTxr7EXblF0aI5ZZls6b2uyZNLZvny4= Received: by 10.204.116.212 with SMTP id n20mr672417bkq.138.1248256249868; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 02:50:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?9.20.183.159? (blueice1n1.uk.ibm.com [195.212.29.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d13sm210966fka.2.2009.07.22.02.50.48 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 22 Jul 2009 02:50:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A66E0F5.4090002@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 10:50:45 +0100 From: Tim Ellison User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@harmony.apache.org Subject: Re: [general] (Stephen Colebourne) No Java SE 7 - The Oracle perspective References: <9623c9a50907211744s388fbb96k881073871c9d1acf@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9623c9a50907211744s388fbb96k881073871c9d1acf@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 22/Jul/2009 01:44, Xiao-Feng Li wrote: > Hope I am not from Mars. I found this is quite interesting (and some > comments there): > > http://www.jroller.com/scolebourne/entry/no_java_se_7_the1 > > Some discussions in Slashdot on this (Well, like most Slashdot comments...): s/Slashdot/ServerSide/g ? > http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.tss?thread_id=54339 IMHO Stephen has done a good job of describing the whole Java/JCP ecosystem through his series of blog posts. Hopefully more people understand how Java progress works now, coming from somebody who does not have an axe to grind [1]. Oracle cannot say anything definitive until the acquisition completes, but historically they have always been supportive of the Apache position regarding the TCK for Harmony. I expect they will do the right thing. [1] http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/an_axe_to_grind Regards, Tim