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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 10:21:54 +0800
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Subject: Re: contribution of treemap modification(s) ?
From: Tony Wu <wuyuehao@gmail.com>
To: dev@harmony.apache.org
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Guys,
Almost two months passed, how are things going? :-)

2009/4/14 charlie hunt <charlie.hunt@sun.com>:
> Hi Oliver,
>
> Thanks for the note!
>
> I will go the route you suggest. =A0Your suggestion does sound like a rou=
te of
> lesser resistance. :-)
>
> []'s
>
> charlie ...
>
> Oliver Deakin wrote:
>>
>> Hi Charlie,
>>
>> I had a quick chat with Tim today, and I think the consensus is that you
>> don't need to fill in the BCC (if you havn't already) since you are the =
only
>> contributor to changes in this code. The Sun CCLA (if it already exists)
>> should be enough to say that Sun approves the admission of code under th=
e
>> Apache License, and your ACQ and ICLA should deal with the rest. Really =
the
>> BCC is more of a checklist to make sure that full care and attention has
>> been paid when large submissions are being made - kind of a reminder to =
the
>> contributor that they need to follow the appropriate process for all
>> authors. Since you are the only author in this case, I think we can happ=
ily
>> accept the contribution without :)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Oliver
>>
>> charlie hunt wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Oliver!
>>>
>>> I am back from vacation and picking up where I left off.
>>>
>>> I think the "safe" way to go is the ACQ and BCC route. =A0Although I wa=
s
>>> the person who made modifications & additions to the source code, I do =
not
>>> own the rights to those modifications & additions, Sun Microsystems doe=
s.
>>>
>>> I will proceed to work the ACQ and BCC process with the appropriate fol=
ks
>>> at Sun. =A0This will likely take a little time due to the nature of the
>>> documents and the additional personnel who will need to be involved.
>>>
>>> As someone once said to me, "patience is a virtue".
>>>
>>> charlie ...
>>>
>>> Oliver Deakin wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Charlie,
>>>>
>>>> The full rules for submitting a bulk contribution are at the bottom of
>>>> [1]. An ACQ is required for the contributor of the bulk contribution
>>>> (yourself) and also for any authors of the TreeMap code you are contri=
buting
>>>> (which is just yourself as well from the sound of things). You also ne=
ed to
>>>> submit a Bulk Contribution Checklist [2].
>>>>
>>>> I believe scans of both the ACQ and BCC need to be mailed to the priva=
te
>>>> PMC mailing list, found on [3].
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Oliver
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://harmony.apache.org/contribution_policy.html
>>>> [2] http://harmony.apache.org/bulk_contribution_checklist.html
>>>> [3] http://harmony.apache.org/mailing.html
>>>>
>>>> charlie hunt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Alexei,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have no problem with the ACQ, nor do I think Sun has a problem with
>>>>> it. =A0I am filling out the ACQ as I draft this note. =A0Just wanted =
to avoid
>>>>> some unnecessary steps if they were not needed.
>>>>>
>>>>> I may have missed where to send the ACQ ... is there an e-mail addres=
s
>>>>> where to send it too or a fax number to send too?
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> charlie ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Alexei Fedotov wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Charlie,
>>>>>> Hope Tim will reply soon to your request.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for ACQ, you can check yourself the last case [1] with the Google
>>>>>> Android. No ACQ + very good intentions to contribute things back mea=
ns
>>>>>> no donation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] http://markmail.org/thread/dtnzrj3oagtpnkfm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2009/4/8 charlie hunt <charlie.hunt@sun.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alexei,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I understand Tim is on vacation / holidays this week.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can I assume you are acting "Harmony lead" in Tim's absence?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wouldn't Sun already have an agreement with Apache which would
>>>>>>> satisfy the
>>>>>>> needs of the ACQ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If it pleases you and Harmony, I will fill out the ACQ. (Sorry, I
>>>>>>> just don't
>>>>>>> fully understand why it's needed for what we're trying to
>>>>>>> accomplish). =A0Can
>>>>>>> you tell me where and the suggested format to send it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> charlie ....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alexei Fedotov wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Charlie,
>>>>>>>> There is no way to give code back to Harmony without filling ACQ.
>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>> form guarantees that you do not give Sun's private IP to Apache
>>>>>>>> Harmony which is a "clean room" implementation.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 5:52 PM, charlie hunt <charlie.hunt@sun.com=
>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ok ... I'm back.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tim: =A0Some questions below. =A0 Sorry to be overly cautious her=
e.
>>>>>>>>> =A0But, I
>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>> direction from you on moving forward with this.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For others who have asked other questions .... I will get to thos=
e
>>>>>>>>> questions
>>>>>>>>> unrelated to getting these modifications to Harmony once we get
>>>>>>>>> that task
>>>>>>>>> out of the way. =A0Please bear with me ... first things first. :-=
)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If possible I would like to get this transaction completed today
>>>>>>>>> since I
>>>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>>> planning to be on holidays / vacation Thursday & Friday.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Questions for Tim:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just to be clear on the TreeMap artifact. =A0The modifications ar=
e
>>>>>>>>> enhancements which made to a TreeMap 5 from the Harmony repositor=
y
>>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>> added / implemented the Java 6 APIs to make it Java 6 compliant.
>>>>>>>>> =A0Although I
>>>>>>>>> was the author of the changes / enhancements, I do not own this
>>>>>>>>> rights to
>>>>>>>>> the code that was added, Sun owns it and Sun wishes to give these
>>>>>>>>> changes/enhancements to Harmony.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1.) I looked over the "detailed contribution policy". =A0At first
>>>>>>>>> glance it
>>>>>>>>> looks a little daunting. ;-) =A0It seems a little heavyweight for
>>>>>>>>> what we
>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>> trying to accomplish which is merely giving Harmony the
>>>>>>>>> modifications to
>>>>>>>>> java.util.TreeMap. =A0Do we need to do:
>>>>>>>>> a.) Authorized Contributor Questionnaire: =A0This looks to be
>>>>>>>>> applicable if
>>>>>>>>> one is wanting to be a (long term) committer to the project. =A0T=
hat
>>>>>>>>> is not
>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>> intention. I merely would like to give Harmony the modifications
>>>>>>>>> made to
>>>>>>>>> your TreeMap 5. =A0Do you really need this Authorized Contributor
>>>>>>>>> Questionnaire? =A0Would there be some kind of "blanket" agreement
>>>>>>>>> between
>>>>>>>>> Sun
>>>>>>>>> & Apache which would make this transaction much easier? =A0Sun ma=
kes
>>>>>>>>> contributions and has contributors on many different Apache
>>>>>>>>> projects.
>>>>>>>>> =A0(Fwiw, I am not trying to delay or slow the transaction. =A0I =
am
>>>>>>>>> trying to
>>>>>>>>> figure out the easiest and quickest way to make this transaction
>>>>>>>>> occur.)
>>>>>>>>> b.) I am certainly not an expert at this topic. =A0But, after rea=
ding
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> "Contribution Policy", it looks to me as if this contribution fal=
ls
>>>>>>>>> under
>>>>>>>>> the "Bulk Contribution"? =A0Would you agree?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Assuming you agree this contribution falls under the "Bulk
>>>>>>>>> Contribution",
>>>>>>>>> what is the typical artifacts put in JIRA and is this something w=
e
>>>>>>>>> can do
>>>>>>>>> ahead of satisfying the "Software Grant or CCLA" which might
>>>>>>>>> already
>>>>>>>>> exist
>>>>>>>>> for Sun? =A0If this falls under a "Bulk Contribution" do you need=
 the
>>>>>>>>> "Authorized Contributor Questionnaire" from me?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sorry to be full of questions ... this is something that is total=
ly
>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> foreign to me. :-(
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> charlie hunt ...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> charlie hunt wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tim,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Since you're essentially the person who's the face of Harmony
>>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>>> days,
>>>>>>>>>> I would like to ask you to help me (a novice) with this process.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hope you don't mind some silly / stupid questions. =A0:-/ =A0I'm=
 an
>>>>>>>>>> engineer.
>>>>>>>>>> Not an open source license and processes expert. =A0In other wor=
ds,
>>>>>>>>>> I do
>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>> want to unknowingly do something that is harmful to either party
>>>>>>>>>> involved.
>>>>>>>>>> =A0This also why I haven't put the code in front of you at this
>>>>>>>>>> point,
>>>>>>>>>> i.e. I
>>>>>>>>>> want to know exactly what's needed for artifacts before moving t=
oo
>>>>>>>>>> quickly
>>>>>>>>>> and putting the code in front of you. =A0Open source projects te=
nd
>>>>>>>>>> to be
>>>>>>>>>> pretty sensitive about how they receive contributions. =A0I woul=
d
>>>>>>>>>> like to
>>>>>>>>>> honor and follow Harmony's wishes wrt this TreeMap you will be
>>>>>>>>>> receiving.
>>>>>>>>>> Hope you understand my concerns.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I will back shortly with a few questions. =A0 I need to get my s=
on
>>>>>>>>>> off to
>>>>>>>>>> school.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Be back shortly.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> charlie ...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tim Ellison wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yep, that is the contibution policy.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If there are any questions about it just ask.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 8, 2009 9:35 AM, "Egor Pasko" <egor.pasko@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On the 0x58D day of Apache Harmony Davanum Srinivas wrote: >
>>>>>>>>>>> Charlie, >
>>>>>>>>>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Typical contribution to an...
>>>>>>>>>>> here is the detailed contribution policy:
>>>>>>>>>>> http://harmony.apache.org/contribution_policy.html
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> My guess is that your contribution falls into the "Bulk
>>>>>>>>>>> Contributions"
>>>>>>>>>>> category. Tim knows this subject a lot better. Let's wait for h=
im
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> speak up.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Egor Pasko
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>


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Tony Wu
China Software Development Lab, IBM