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From "Nathan Beyer" <ndbe...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Harmony 2009 roadmap Was: Using PriviAction instead of PrivilegedAction
Date Fri, 26 Dec 2008 19:14:00 GMT
On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Alexei Fedotov
<alexei.fedotov@gmail.com> wrote:
> Merry Christmas folks,
> The discussion on PriviAction re-factoring makes me feel lost. Even if
> you guys spend days discussing Harmony directions on PMC list, this is
> not quite transparent for me and Kevin.

I assure you, there's no discussion of Harmony's direction on the PMC
list - that all takes place on the public development list. Very
little actually happens on the PMC list - mostly procedural stuff
about ICLAs and ACQs.

The community defines the direction of the project and we do that on
the public development list.


> Well, I like improving my
> code. But even more than that I like when someone make use of my code.
> During crisis times are we looking for customers who may take
> advantage of our product?
> For example, Eclipse might be bundled with our archive.jar with
> delayed parsing of per-entry manifest attributes, thus improving
> Eclipse start up time on the top of Sun's VM. Of course, delayed
> parsing should be developed first. Those of you, guys, who continue
> using java, may share your real life examples. As for me, I don't use
> java except for launching OpenProj. But nothing prevents us from
> taking advantage of Salikh's infrastructure for unit testing [1] in
> our C++ project.  I'm trying to convince my colleagues to adopt my
> logger as well.
> Having clear goals like 100% API completeness or redistributable class
> library for Google Android is also nice. I'm looking forward for your
> ideas on our directions.
> [1] http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/harmony/enhanced/drlvm/trunk/vm/tests/unit/framework/
> On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Tim Ellison <t.p.ellison@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I didn't see a good answer to Alexei's question...
>> Alexei Fedotov wrote:
>>> Pavel,
>>> Kevin didn't mention performance, did he?
>>> I believe it is always a trade off between modularity and speed. The
>>> performance measurement might be a part of Kevin's arguments if his
>>> intentions are to improve the performance. That is why I asked him to
>>> elaborate both approaches uncovering intentions.
>>> If our internal security interfaces are much quicker on real
>>> applications I would wonder why our public interfaces are so slow.
>> What problem is the PriviAction solving?  I see the class comment [1] says:
>> "Helper class to avoid multiple anonymous inner class for
>> java.security.AccessController#doPrivileged(PrivilegedAction) calls."
>> Is that really a problem?  For readability or performance?
>> [1]
>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/harmony/enhanced/classlib/trunk/modules/luni/src/main/java/org/apache/harmony/luni/util/PriviAction.java?revision=486600
>> Regards,
>> Tim
> --
> С уважением,
> Алексей Федотов,
> ЗАО «Телеком Экспресс»
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