On the 0x50E day of Apache Harmony Naveen Neelakantam wrote:
> Thanks for the quick response!
>
> (snip)
>
> Egor Pasko wrote:
>> On the 0x50E day of Apache Harmony Naveen Neelakantam wrote:
>>
>>> Egor Pasko wrote:
>>>
>>>> On the 0x4F2 day of Apache Harmony Naveen Neelakantam wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1. changes in the solver are very unwanted because we want to make the
>>>> solver as readable as possible (given that the concept is really
>>>> complicated). Once we want equivalent Pi operands to behave like a
>>>> single Pi operand, we should better link them together in the
>>>> inequality graph (zeroedges, both higher and lower graphs). The
>>>> solver goes through zero chains just fine.
>>>>
>>> I agree with the spirit of your comment, however in this case your
>>> suggestion is infeasible. There are two alternatives as I see it,
>>> which are dictated by the specifics of the algorithm. Either:
>>> a) The upper bound and lower bound problems are solved using separate
>>> eSSA graphs, or
>>>
>>
>> currently they are solved using separate InequalityGraphs (okay, a
>> single object that works in 2 states: upper and lower). Our eSSA
>> contains enough information to build both inequality graphs. So, this
>> approach should work.
>>
> Actually, I think you misunderstood me. Separate inequality graphs
> are insufficient. Option (1) is to solve the upper and lower bound
> problems with separate eSSA graphs.
I mean though HIR is the same, we can take different information bits
from HIR when constructing upper and lower inequality graphs. And I
believe there is enough in HIR to take for both upper and lower
problems.
>>> b) The solver is modified to adopt the notion of piequivalence when
>>> checking for termination conditions (and _only_ when checking for
>>> termination conditions).
>>>
>>> As a thought experiment, consider the implications of allowing zero
>>> edges between pirenamed variables. It would essentially convey
>>> constraints granted onto pirenamed variables upon their sources.
>>> This would make it possible for sources to appear constrained by
>>> inequalities that do _not_ dominate them. This is clearly incorrect.
>>>
>>
>> Clearly, this is not my day job too :) I should refresh some memories.
>> AFAIR we do not constrain the original operand because the edge is
>> directed :)
>>
> Right, but to solve the issue I've identified, you would need to add a
> zero edge from a pirenamed source to it's destination, which is
> incorrect.
Edges in InequalityGraph are always pointing from inscruction source
to instruction destination. In this case the instruction is pi. What's
the problem?
>>> In my opinion something must be done here, or ABCD should simply be
>>> disabled as it is otherwise crippled.
>>>
>>
>> currently ABCD should be correct, but not that capable. We should
>> reenable the capabilities. I am not seeing the reason to disable it
>> now.
>>
>> Let's go this way. You try to make extra edges in InequalityGraph as I
>> described, if this does not work, I'll go hunting my memories and fix
>> it. That may imply taking your original approach. :)
>>
> I'm convinced simply adding extra edges won't work. I can try to use
> the BidirectionalBubbleSort example to demonstrate why, but expect a
> delay. :)
hm, it worked earlier. The HIR changed locally, so should work
now. Your demonstration would be a really hard work.. ;)

Egor Pasko
