Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-harmony-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 10609 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2008 09:22:32 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 17 Nov 2008 09:22:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 75565 invoked by uid 500); 17 Nov 2008 09:22:39 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-harmony-dev-archive@harmony.apache.org Received: (qmail 75541 invoked by uid 500); 17 Nov 2008 09:22:39 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@harmony.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@harmony.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@harmony.apache.org Received: (qmail 75530 invoked by uid 99); 17 Nov 2008 09:22:39 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 17 Nov 2008 01:22:39 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of xiaofeng.li@gmail.com designates 209.85.198.241 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.198.241] (HELO rv-out-0708.google.com) (209.85.198.241) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 17 Nov 2008 09:21:18 +0000 Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id k29so2755284rvb.0 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2008 01:21:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=FkFoeyzwWzk/ZP8RGM0rlEcpPk1d8dJCg01QqsgoaIQ=; b=MGFtHu2Mj7noynWK/dY1o7KBfzeUH85fZU0c0y1WQnndFnoXgTjgNA4viiIo+TnKP+ WDS2UXBUL7ffZG5OG/xe4a02dw0b5wrkwMUN2n6v1IpTSXx67WBNTmz59xXJ6NYqowh+ xuaRj8D9n6CeLF/Xp/kGAibmAl0w8lkkFGA/0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=fbUI9iPfSb4sAgG0zF6bQ/Cxapf+Vw1Pnbqzcq+42lwWbqzaZs8fy8T5+XHm+L6eFa HjH5J8cw6gTEEYgfGrUNkovfey3ZqmENZqoUIfRm4YSbX3AaMXufZoV1HrGPdB9NHO6R uJjEpHR3wQecRZNdfZnm+qhY4zNKJXlciGMxM= Received: by 10.142.238.12 with SMTP id l12mr1878909wfh.222.1226913713040; Mon, 17 Nov 2008 01:21:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.143.164.5 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Nov 2008 01:21:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9623c9a50811170121j331b00f4rdbdd2e285caa9ca5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:21:52 +0800 From: "Xiao-Feng Li" To: dev@harmony.apache.org Subject: Re: [performance] Startup cost is high for Harmony (HARMONY-6002) In-Reply-To: <4921352C.6030907@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <491AFABD.2070209@gmail.com> <3b3f27c60811130643v27e44143xd58d7c88a915ac63@mail.gmail.com> <491CF0C3.3010008@gmail.com> <9623c9a50811132154i1b43942cx60653a55696f9cc2@mail.gmail.com> <491D6DE7.2010702@gmail.com> <9623c9a50811161936w1644adf8rf2c4f935ad7d1ddc@mail.gmail.com> <4921352C.6030907@gmail.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Tim Ellison wrote: > Xiao-Feng Li wrote: >> On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 8:24 PM, Regis wrote: >>> IMHO, it isn't negative to modularity of Harmony itself at developing time, >>> but it is at deployment or runtime. For example, someone want to replace >>> concurrent module with another implementation, he just need to replace the >>> concurrent.jar, that's enough. But if we pack them into one big jar, he need >>> to unpack, replace and pack again. That also work, but isn't convenient and >>> straightforward. >> >> We can offer a build option to provide separate JARs if that's >> desirable. Does anyone really need this feature? > > It is a desirable feature for people who consume only parts of Harmony, > or who want to subset the runtime -- though I agree that there are > multiple ways to solve that problem. Ok, then let's provide the extra option. Thanks, xiaofeng > As written elsewhere though, let's check we are solving the right problem. > > Regards, > Tim > > -- http://xiao-feng.blogspot.com