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From "Nathan Beyer" <ndbe...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [classlib] Upgrading BCEL?
Date Sat, 19 Jul 2008 02:04:47 GMT
Should we be considering replacing BCEL? It sounds like the project isn't
going anywhere.

-Nathan

On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Sian January <sianjanuary@googlemail.com>
wrote:

> I'd like to raise the issue of upgrading BCEL again.  I had a conversation
> with the people on the BCEL mailing list back in June[1] and it seems very
> unlikely that they're going to get a 5.3 out in the near future.  There is
> apparently only one person who reviews and commits patches and no ongoing
> development apart from that.  There is some interest in testing a release
> candidate (and I volunteered myself) but I'm not sure that there's anyone
> available to build one.
>
> In the light of this, could we discuss the possibility of bringing an
> non-release build into Harmony?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sian
>
>
> [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/bcel-user@jakarta.apache.org/msg01034.html
>
>
> On 12/06/2008, Alexey Petrenko <alexey.a.petrenko@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, they probably does not know that someone needs their new release :)
> >
> > 2008/6/12, Sian January <sianjanuary@googlemail.com>:
> > > Yes, the latest available source does seem to support all the needed
> > >  features.  There are a few useful methods that I would expect to see
> > there
> > >  that are missing, but they can be worked around fairly easily.
> > >
> > >  I agree in general that it's not good practice to unneccesarily switch
> > to
> > >  unreleased versions, but in the case of BCEL when the last release was
> 2
> > >  years ago and the code base has been very stable for a number of years
> > due
> > >  to little active development I wouldn't think the risk is very
> > high.  Also
> > >  the only dependencies are from pack200 and Yoko, so it doesn't affect
> > that
> > >  much of the class library.
> > >
> > >  However I have been assuming that a 5.3 in the near future is
> unlikely,
> > but
> > >  as you say it would be worth asking on their mailing list, so I will
> do
> > that
> > >  first.
> > >
> > >  Thanks,
> > >
> > >
> > >  Sian
> > >
> > >
> > >  On 12/06/2008, Alexey Petrenko <alexey.a.petrenko@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >  >
> > >  > Does latest available sources support all the needed features?
> > >  > We also can write a message BCEL developers to understand current
> > >  > status of the sources. It is probably not the best idea to switch to
> > >  > bleeding sources..
> > >  >
> > >  > SY, Alexey
> > >  >
> > >  > 2008/6/12, Sian January <sianjanuary@googlemail.com>:
> > >  > > We're currently using BCEL 5.2 in Harmony, which is the latest
> > released
> > >  > >  version (from June 2006).  However it doesn't support all the
> Java
> > 5
> > >  > class
> > >  > >  file features, which is making it complicated to implement
> pack200
> > (and
> > >  > also
> > >  > >  means that javap won't print Java 5 stuff properly when we have
> > >  > one).  There
> > >  > >  is support for these features in HEAD, but I don't think there's
> > much
> > >  > active
> > >  > >  development going on in BCEL and I can't find any information
> about
> > when
> > >  > a
> > >  > >  possible 5.3 might be released.
> > >  > >
> > >  > >  I'd like to propose upgrading Harmony to the latest available
> > source for
> > >  > >  BCEL.  Does that sound possible?
> > >  > >
> > >  > >  Thanks,
> > >  > >
> > >  > >  Sian
> > >  > >
> > >  > >
> > >  > >
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