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Comments: In-reply-to "Alexei Fedotov" <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>
   message dated "Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:29:35 +0400."
From: Mark Hindess <mark.hindess@googlemail.com>
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Subject: Re: [doc] credits updated Was: [general] removing people names from
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 09:15:43 +0100


On 22 April 2008 at 14:29, "Alexei Fedotov" <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello
> Let's ask a waiter to serve a soup and flies separately. There were
> two different questions here.
> 
> 1. Credits. I created a list on Wiki [1] so any unfairness could be
> easily fixed.

I have no real view on this.  If I wanted to see what someone
had done for the project, I'd write some scripts to parse JIRA
attachments/comments, mailing list posts and SVN logs.

> 2. Author removal. The patch [2] is ready. There was no consensus on
> the list about it. If one who raised the question in a separate thread
> few days ago is a true gentlemen, he would marry her, I mean, would
> facilitate some consensus before applying the patch.

[ My unmarried partner is pregnant for the second time so you can't mean
me.  But I'll reply anyway. ;-) ]

Personally I am very much against:

a) patches that remove authors names but make no other changes to files
unless that is the sole purpose of the patch, and

b) new author names being added now that the code is owned by the
community

I still think getting rid of them would be better but others disagree
and have good arguments.

But I am prepared to leave it to committers discretion.  I don't commit
many changes to drlvm and this is the main portion of the codebase with
author tags so it doesn't necessarily affect me that much.

-Mark

> 
> Thanks.
> 
> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/harmony/People
> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HARMONY-5769
> 
> On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 8:13 AM, Alexey Varlamov
> <alexey.v.varlamov@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 2008/4/22, Gregory Shimansky <gshimansky@apache.org>:
> >
> >
> > > On 21 April 2008 Alexei Fedotov wrote:
> >  > > Hello folks
> >  > >
> >  > > I started asking people how they would feel about removing their names
> >  > > from the source files. One of replies I got was that it would be nice
> >  > > to keep the names in the list of contributors. Any ideas on
> >  > > feasibility of the file, a suitable name (NOTICE?) and any
> >  > > corresponding Apache guidelines?
> >  >
> >  > You can remove my name, I have no objections. I can't speak for others a
> nd I
> >  > don't really care whether author tags are present in the files or not.
> >
> >  This should be easier to take for committers, as their names are
> >  publicly credited on Harmony site anyway. ;)
> >  Seriously, I think many peoples are proud of their work and would
> >  prefer to stay listed in credits someway. Don't those projects which
> >  remove @author from sources, maintain a sort of CREDITS.txt instead?
> >
> >  I personally prefer to keep original author names in sources till a
> >  moment then other contributors to the same file/area feel that it is
> >  appropriate to drop them. Seeing names in a quick glance helps to
> >  build that subtle association between peoples and source code, and
> >  adds another link in community in the end.
> >  So I second Xiao-Feng, such removal should not be mechanical.
> >
> >  Regards,
> >  Alexey
> >
> >  >
> >  > --
> >  > Gregory
> >  >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> With best regards,
> Alexei
>