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From "Alexey Varlamov" <alexey.v.varla...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [general] icu or apr-iconv, which coding library is better?
Date Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:04:48 GMT
2008/4/17, Mark Hindess <mark.hindess@googlemail.com>:
>
> On 16 April 2008 at 21:59, "Nathan Beyer" <ndbeyer@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:45 PM, Alexey Varlamov <
> > alexey.v.varlamov@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > 2008/4/16, Nathan Beyer <nbeyer@gmail.com<https://mail.google.com/mail?view
> > =cm&tf=0&to=nbeyer@gmail.com>
> > > >:
> > > > I think we need more consensus on this. Is everyone in agreement about
> > > > dumping log4cxx? Is this patch the appropriate replacement?
> > >
> > > Well, the suggestion has positive responses from me, Xiao-Feng and
> > > Ilya Berezhniuk, and no specifc opposing arguments. Let's wait last
> > > 24h, tomorrow I'll commit if no objections.
> >
> >
> > Someone has to be the bad guy.
>
> I don't think anyone saw it like that.  The issues you raised -
> particularly about the confusion [see the current subject line for
> example] about what was trying to be achieved were entirely reasonable.
>
> > I don't really care to honest, but I do know that big changes
> > generally have big side-effects, so I think it's better to have
> > more consensus and discussion up front. As the size and effect of
> > the change increases, so should the discussion and number of people
> > involved increase.
>
> Indeed.  In this case, too much discussion happened on the JIRA before
> Tim's comment.  So discussion should probably have happened here before
> the JIRA was even opened.

Agree, approach was far from ideal - it was a surprise to catch a huge
patch w/o preliminary discussion or even indicating intentions in
JIRA's comment.

OK, does anyone still have a confusion about the issue?

--
Alexey

>
> Regards,
>  Mark
>
>
>

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