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From "Alexei Fedotov" <alexei.fedo...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [general] freeze for M5.5_Eclipse_TPTP
Date Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:55:48 GMT
Well, Tim, your letter opens a missed opportunity. If interested, Asaf
and the TPTP team may start talking Eclipse legals to make them more
flexible about release dates and formality level of the source
revision if they have not done that yet. If tests pass tomorrow,
Stepan may communicate the informal revision. If Asaf would succeed,
the number would be enough.

Meanwhile we may try to understand why a convenience pseudo-release is
a bad thing for our project (which  AFAIK have not managed to ship its
first release yet). Are there any pseudo-release precedents in a
history of Apache projects? Tim, it would help me to understand your
discretion against pseudo-releases if you supply some arguments.

On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 7:49 PM, Tim Ellison <t.p.ellison@gmail.com> wrote:
> Stepan Mishura wrote:
> > It makes me sad :-(
> >
> > We ask another project to be more flexible but we are not ready to be
> > flexible too - we scheduled M6 to mid of May and we couldn't move it
> > to the end of April. We are discussing the request almost for 2 weeks
> > (this time is enough to make full milestone testing cycle) and I've
> > not heard any strong argument for having it in mid of May expect that
> > we scheduled it to this date. ;-(
> >
>  I have no objection to moving the date of M6 earlier, but I do object to us
> declaring "M5.5_Eclipse_TPTP" as a convenience, less tested, pseudo-release
> to circumvent the Eclipse legal process.
>  Yet it appears that even the code of interest is not stable.  There are
> verifier bugs being fixed at the moment [1] which presumably mean that a
> code freeze now for M6 would be unacceptable.
>  (A nit, but it actually takes us longer than two weeks, since after the
> code freeze we historically test longer than one week, then we need time to
> vote on the results and publish it, so its actually more like three minimum)
>  It makes me sad that we didn't hear of this request sooner, or that TPTP
> have a release more frequently than once per year.
>  [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HARMONY-5785
>  Regards,
>  Tim

With best regards,

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