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From Tim Ellison <t.p.elli...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [general][repos] Benchmark repository
Date Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:08:45 GMT
I wonder if we talk nicely to Nadya she'll create a 'Getting started 
with the BTI' page for us :-)

Tim

Sean Qiu wrote:
> You can get  a brief introduction to BTI from here:
> http://harmony.apache.org/subcomponents/buildtest/index.html
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/harmony/enhanced/buildtest/trunk/infra/README.txt
> 
> You can get a development introduction of BTI from here:
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/harmony/enhanced/buildtest/trunk/infra/SPEC.txt
> 
> If you want to know more implementation details about BTI, you can
> refer to this document:
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/harmony/enhanced/buildtest/trunk/infra/dev-guide.txt
> 
> I hope this will be helpful to you.
> 
> 2008/4/18, Aleksey Shipilev <aleksey.shipilev@gmail.com>:
>> So, should I make the benchmark ready for running via BTI?
>>  Are there any guidelines and criteria it should meet?
>>
>>  Thanks,
>>
>> Aleksey.
>>
>>
>>  On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 8:09 PM, Sean Qiu <sean.xx.qiu@gmail.com> wrote:
>>  > What about adding a web UI for our BTI?
>>  >  I think it is natural since we have a similar one to publish our results.
>>  >
>>  >  Just like continuum[1], it is easier to manage.
>>  >  Maybe we can get some hint from it.
>>  >
>>  >  Anyway, BTI is worthwhile devation.
>>  >
>>  >  [1] http://continuum.apache.org/
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >  2008/4/16, Stepan Mishura <stepan.mishura@gmail.com>:
>>  >  > On 4/16/08, Alexey Varlamov <alexey.v.varlamov@gmail.com> wrote:
>>  >  > > 2008/4/16, Stepan Mishura <stepan.mishura@gmail.com>:
>>  >  > > > On 4/16/08, Alexey Varlamov <alexey.v.varlamov@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>  >  > > > > 2008/4/16, Tony Wu <wuyuehao@gmail.com>:
>>  >  > > > > > Is it possible to integrate into BTI? if not we can
consider the enhanced/tools/
>>  >  > > > >
>>  >  > > > > There is one already in drlvm trunk, see working_vm/src/test/microbenchmark.
>>  >  > > > > There is no infrastructure around, it is mere store holder
for now.
>>  >  > > > > Feel free to add benches there, they are not intended
to be
>>  >  > > > > VM-specific.
>>  >  > > > >
>>  >  > > >
>>  >  > > > I would say opposite if they are DRLVM specific then it is
OK to put
>>  >  > > > them to the folder. Otherwise (i.e. they are not VM-specific)
we
>>  >  > > > should integrate them to BTI.
>>  >  > > >
>>  >  > > > Th point is that DRLVM workspace should contain only DRLVM
specific
>>  >  > > > tests. For example, IMO DRLVM workspace is not the right place
for
>>  >  > > > EHWA-API scenario.
>>  >  > >
>>  >  > > This is too radical position IMO. Absolute majority of tests in
DRLVM
>>  >  > > are functional and not impl-specific, should we move them all to
BTI?
>>  >  > >
>>  >  >
>>  >  > Yes, IMHO we should move them to BTI.
>>  >  >
>>  >  > The point is that any workspace (classlib/drlvm/jdktools) is not a
>>  >  > repository for a set of different suites.
>>  >  >
>>  >  > > Sometimes convenience of using and extending is more important for
>>  >  > > success. If we had appropriate infra for benchmarks I wouldn't argue,
>>  >  > > but now I'm afraid most contributors would rather leave a bench-case
>>  >  > > hanging in JIRA than dare to hack BTI. I'm happy to be proven wrong,
>>  >  > > though.
>>  >  > >
>>  >  >
>>  >  > "convenience of using and extending" is questionable for me in this case.
>>  >  > Well, yes I agree that from position of a DRLVM developer it is more
>>  >  > convenient when EHWA-API scenario is located in DRLVM workspace - no
>>  >  > additional efforts are required to run it. But what about classlib
>>  >  > developer who wants to run EHWA-API on J9 - she/he needs to checkout
>>  >  > DRLVM workspace. Is this convenient and extensible? (Hmm, may be I was
>>  >  > wrong when I insisted on integration of LDAP scenario into BTI then
>>  >  > into classlibrary ;-))
>>  >  >
>>  >  > Seriously, if we think that using BTI is complicated for a developer
>>  >  > then we should do our best and make it simpler and more convenient.
>>  >  > Otherwise we finish with zoo of different suites/scenarios in several
>>  >  > places.
>>  >  >
>>  >  > Thanks,
>>  >  > Stepan.
>>  >  >
>>  >  > > Regards,
>>  >  > > Alexey
>>  >  > > >
>>  >  > > > Thanks,
>>  >  > > > Stepan.
>>  >  > > >
>>  >  > > > > Re integration to BTI, this would require fair amount
of efforts and
>>  >  > > > > usage model is not clear to me.
>>  >  > > > >
>>  >  > > > > >
>>  >  > > > > > On 4/15/08, Aleksey Shipilev <aleksey.shipilev@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>  >  > > > > > > Hi Tony, all!
>>  >  > > > > > >
>>  >  > > > > > > Does it make sense to create special place in
our repository for
>>  >  > > > > > > storing the benchmarks like this one I've used
in my performance
>>  >  > > > > > > researches on Harmony? It would be great to
have them synchronized in
>>  >  > > > > > > repos rather than store in JIRA.
>>  >  > > > > > >
>>  >  > > > > > > Thanks,
>>  >  > > > > > > Aleksey.
>>  >  > > > > > >
>>  >  > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:00 AM, Tony Wu <wuyuehao@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>  >  > > > > > > > Aleksey,
>>  >  > > > > > > >  I think keep the benchmark somewhere such
as JIRA is also ok.
>>  >  > > > > > >
>>  >  > > > > >
>>  >  > > > > >
>>  >  > > > > > --
>>  >  > > > > > Tony Wu
>>  >  > > > > > China Software Development Lab, IBM
>>  >  > > > > >
>>  >  > > > >
>>  >  > > >
>>  >  > >
>>  >  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >  --
>>  >  Best Regards
>>  >  Sean, Xiao Xia Qiu
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >  China Software Development Lab, IBM
>>  >
>>
> 
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