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From: "Johnny Kewl" <john@kewlstuff.co.za>
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Subject: I'm Broken ;(
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 14:39:10 +0200
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You know when I first looked at this I said lets do JRELite, which I see =
as the future of Java, and
to do this, I'm going to take Harmony and "break it into little =
pieces"... ha ha

Well I stand before you humbled and broken, Harmony broke me into little =
pieces, bashed my head against the wall and then drowned me ;)
I think it threw a few kicks in as well ;)

Its a humungous ambitious beyond belief undertaking and even though I've =
done plenty of C in my time,
cross platform coding is something else.

Have always used an IDE, and thats my problem, I just dont know where to =
start when faced with build
errors... I just cant cant get it to compile on XP even now using VS 6
Its trying but when something like this happens...

     [exec] E:\Harmony\working_classlib\deploy\include\hythread.h(137) : =
error C
2146: syntax error : missing ')' before identifier 'millis'

in this code

extern HY_CFUNC IDATA VMCALL
    hythread_sleep_interruptable PROTOTYPE ((I_64 millis, IDATA nanos));

I know its not a real syntax error and that I_64 is probably not =
defined... then I follow the code back and it just becomes
a whole bunch of cross platform defines... and then I wonder where on =
earth the ant script defines that.

I tried all sorts of things and... even from VS 2005 and there for some =
reason its trying to compile the
linux folders and not the win32... and I think where on earth do you =
tell the ant script to change that.
Or is it hiding in a mak file... I now officially give up.

How on earth does one go about bringing code back from ant driven.... to =
IDE driven... that beats me.
All these dependencies... for me impossible.

So I leave you gurus to do your thing... I can see you damn good, and =
that you are working
damn hard, but the size of this project and my skill levels lacking the =
ability to even get it to a dev environment means
.... Harmony has kicked my butt ;)

We going try kludge JRELite from J2SE... but that really means internal =
company use only... its a fun thing.

Just before I go, I want to show you something and why I believe JRELite =
is the future...
This technology is something your truely invented because we dont like =
EJB, now if you can just forget about that... we get flamed regularly
... the surprising thing that fell out of this was the delivery times of =
applications.
With this technology applications all live on a central server, so there =
is no application installed in the company, they are delivered.
And also do not get confused here... delivering application and =
delivering the API as suggested in JRELIte is NOT the same thing.
BUT... it is using a similar principle, ie it does not install the JARs, =
it just sucks down what the application needs.
Now if you degrade yourselves ;) and set this up on a MS system.... =
watch how fast the applications are delivered.
In most cases, on a LAN... in under a second.... so you see, I wasnt =
totally open... I know JRELite will work.
Its (if you can just forget about the competition with EJB)... a good =
way for you to see how your JreLite would work, when you deliver API... =
http://coolharbor.100free.com/index.htm

Best of luck to you.
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