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From "Xiao-Feng Li" <xiaofeng...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: I'm Broken ;(
Date Fri, 07 Mar 2008 01:43:48 GMT
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 10:56 PM, Tim Ellison <t.p.ellison@gmail.com> wrote:
> xiaofeng.li@gmail.com wrote:
>  > MSVC2005 is a minimum requirement now, I think.
>
>  I am running fine on MS VStudio 2003.

I see almost all of those new Harmony users were frustrated by the
build failures with VS2005, so it's not only a developer's issue. We
should be realistic and Harmony better be user-friendly.


>  I'm sure people would be happy to update the code to run on any later
>  versions too, as we have in the past [1].  We just need people with
>  those later versions to tell us what to change.

Yes.

Thanks,
xiaofeng

>  [1] http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=rev&revision=591059
>
>  Regards,
>  Tim
>
>
>
>  > Link below is what I suggested 1.5 years ago:
>  > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/harmony-dev/200607.mbox/%3c9623c9a50607061939g5ef5c5ecr2c4389dfb25977ca@mail.gmail.com%3e
>  >
>  > Thanks,
>  > xiaofeng
>  >
>  > On 3/6/08, Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >> Johnny,
>  >> You are welcome to return when you get some rest. I believe anyone can
>  >> learn how to build a Harmony provided he has enough time and passion.
>  >> Thank you for your energy and enthusiasm.
>  >>
>  >> All, do we want to switch to something newer? MSVC 2005? Or MSVC 2008?
>  >> Or Cygwin's gcc?
>  >> J9 funs, may J9 dependency from a specific runtime prove an issue?
>  >> Stepan, Alexey, CC owners, I'm asking you because enabling efforts
>  >> look lighter for me compared to BTI transition.
>  >>
>  >> Thanks.
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Johnny Kewl <john@kewlstuff.co.za> wrote:
>  >>> You know when I first looked at this I said lets do JRELite, which I see
>  >> as the future of Java, and
>  >>>  to do this, I'm going to take Harmony and "break it into little
>  >> pieces"... ha ha
>  >>>  Well I stand before you humbled and broken, Harmony broke me into little
>  >> pieces, bashed my head against the wall and then drowned me ;)
>  >>>  I think it threw a few kicks in as well ;)
>  >>>
>  >>>  Its a humungous ambitious beyond belief undertaking and even though I've
>  >> done plenty of C in my time,
>  >>>  cross platform coding is something else.
>  >>>
>  >>>  Have always used an IDE, and thats my problem, I just dont know where
to
>  >> start when faced with build
>  >>>  errors... I just cant cant get it to compile on XP even now using VS 6
>  >>>  Its trying but when something like this happens...
>  >>>
>  >>>      [exec] E:\Harmony\working_classlib\deploy\include\hythread.h(137)
:
>  >> error C
>  >>>  2146: syntax error : missing ')' before identifier 'millis'
>  >>>
>  >>>  in this code
>  >>>
>  >>>  extern HY_CFUNC IDATA VMCALL
>  >>>     hythread_sleep_interruptable PROTOTYPE ((I_64 millis, IDATA nanos));
>  >>>
>  >>>  I know its not a real syntax error and that I_64 is probably not
>  >> defined... then I follow the code back and it just becomes
>  >>>  a whole bunch of cross platform defines... and then I wonder where on
>  >> earth the ant script defines that.
>  >>>  I tried all sorts of things and... even from VS 2005 and there for some
>  >> reason its trying to compile the
>  >>>  linux folders and not the win32... and I think where on earth do you tell
>  >> the ant script to change that.
>  >>>  Or is it hiding in a mak file... I now officially give up.
>  >>>
>  >>>  How on earth does one go about bringing code back from ant driven....
to
>  >> IDE driven... that beats me.
>  >>>  All these dependencies... for me impossible.
>  >>>
>  >>>  So I leave you gurus to do your thing... I can see you damn good, and
>  >> that you are working
>  >>>  damn hard, but the size of this project and my skill levels lacking the
>  >> ability to even get it to a dev environment means
>  >>>  .... Harmony has kicked my butt ;)
>  >>>
>  >>>  We going try kludge JRELite from J2SE... but that really means internal
>  >> company use only... its a fun thing.
>  >>>  Just before I go, I want to show you something and why I believe JRELite
>  >> is the future...
>  >>>  This technology is something your truely invented because we dont like
>  >> EJB, now if you can just forget about that... we get flamed regularly
>  >>>  ... the surprising thing that fell out of this was the delivery times
of
>  >> applications.
>  >>>  With this technology applications all live on a central server, so there
>  >> is no application installed in the company, they are delivered.
>  >>>  And also do not get confused here... delivering application and
>  >> delivering the API as suggested in JRELIte is NOT the same thing.
>  >>>  BUT... it is using a similar principle, ie it does not install the JARs,
>  >> it just sucks down what the application needs.
>  >>>  Now if you degrade yourselves ;) and set this up on a MS system.... watch
>  >> how fast the applications are delivered.
>  >>>  In most cases, on a LAN... in under a second.... so you see, I wasnt
>  >> totally open... I know JRELite will work.
>  >>>  Its (if you can just forget about the competition with EJB)... a good
way
>  >> for you to see how your JreLite would work, when you deliver API...
>  >> http://coolharbor.100free.com/index.htm
>  >>>  Best of luck to you.
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> --
>  >> With best regards,
>  >> Alexei
>  >>
>  >
>  >
>



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