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From Tim Ellison <t.p.elli...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: I'm Broken ;(
Date Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:56:09 GMT
xiaofeng.li@gmail.com wrote:
> MSVC2005 is a minimum requirement now, I think.

I am running fine on MS VStudio 2003.

I'm sure people would be happy to update the code to run on any later 
versions too, as we have in the past [1].  We just need people with 
those later versions to tell us what to change.

[1] http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=rev&revision=591059


> Link below is what I suggested 1.5 years ago:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/harmony-dev/200607.mbox/%3c9623c9a50607061939g5ef5c5ecr2c4389dfb25977ca@mail.gmail.com%3e
> Thanks,
> xiaofeng
> On 3/6/08, Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Johnny,
>> You are welcome to return when you get some rest. I believe anyone can
>> learn how to build a Harmony provided he has enough time and passion.
>> Thank you for your energy and enthusiasm.
>> All, do we want to switch to something newer? MSVC 2005? Or MSVC 2008?
>> Or Cygwin's gcc?
>> J9 funs, may J9 dependency from a specific runtime prove an issue?
>> Stepan, Alexey, CC owners, I'm asking you because enabling efforts
>> look lighter for me compared to BTI transition.
>> Thanks.
>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Johnny Kewl <john@kewlstuff.co.za> wrote:
>>> You know when I first looked at this I said lets do JRELite, which I see
>> as the future of Java, and
>>>  to do this, I'm going to take Harmony and "break it into little
>> pieces"... ha ha
>>>  Well I stand before you humbled and broken, Harmony broke me into little
>> pieces, bashed my head against the wall and then drowned me ;)
>>>  I think it threw a few kicks in as well ;)
>>>  Its a humungous ambitious beyond belief undertaking and even though I've
>> done plenty of C in my time,
>>>  cross platform coding is something else.
>>>  Have always used an IDE, and thats my problem, I just dont know where to
>> start when faced with build
>>>  errors... I just cant cant get it to compile on XP even now using VS 6
>>>  Its trying but when something like this happens...
>>>      [exec] E:\Harmony\working_classlib\deploy\include\hythread.h(137) :
>> error C
>>>  2146: syntax error : missing ')' before identifier 'millis'
>>>  in this code
>>>     hythread_sleep_interruptable PROTOTYPE ((I_64 millis, IDATA nanos));
>>>  I know its not a real syntax error and that I_64 is probably not
>> defined... then I follow the code back and it just becomes
>>>  a whole bunch of cross platform defines... and then I wonder where on
>> earth the ant script defines that.
>>>  I tried all sorts of things and... even from VS 2005 and there for some
>> reason its trying to compile the
>>>  linux folders and not the win32... and I think where on earth do you tell
>> the ant script to change that.
>>>  Or is it hiding in a mak file... I now officially give up.
>>>  How on earth does one go about bringing code back from ant driven.... to
>> IDE driven... that beats me.
>>>  All these dependencies... for me impossible.
>>>  So I leave you gurus to do your thing... I can see you damn good, and
>> that you are working
>>>  damn hard, but the size of this project and my skill levels lacking the
>> ability to even get it to a dev environment means
>>>  .... Harmony has kicked my butt ;)
>>>  We going try kludge JRELite from J2SE... but that really means internal
>> company use only... its a fun thing.
>>>  Just before I go, I want to show you something and why I believe JRELite
>> is the future...
>>>  This technology is something your truely invented because we dont like
>> EJB, now if you can just forget about that... we get flamed regularly
>>>  ... the surprising thing that fell out of this was the delivery times of
>> applications.
>>>  With this technology applications all live on a central server, so there
>> is no application installed in the company, they are delivered.
>>>  And also do not get confused here... delivering application and
>> delivering the API as suggested in JRELIte is NOT the same thing.
>>>  BUT... it is using a similar principle, ie it does not install the JARs,
>> it just sucks down what the application needs.
>>>  Now if you degrade yourselves ;) and set this up on a MS system.... watch
>> how fast the applications are delivered.
>>>  In most cases, on a LAN... in under a second.... so you see, I wasnt
>> totally open... I know JRELite will work.
>>>  Its (if you can just forget about the competition with EJB)... a good way
>> for you to see how your JreLite would work, when you deliver API...
>> http://coolharbor.100free.com/index.htm
>>>  Best of luck to you.
>> --
>> With best regards,
>> Alexei

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