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Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:11:38 +0000
From: Tim Ellison <t.p.ellison@gmail.com>
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Gregory Shimansky wrote:
> Tim Ellison said the following on 13.12.2007 13:51:
>> So that's what I mean by 'full speed debugging' -- usually written in
>> quotes since it typically isn't really 'full speed'.  Certain aggressive
>> JIT optimizations will have to be turned off to permit debugging.
>>
>> Are we talking about the same thing?
> 
> Yes, with an exception that no optimizations are done when a program is
> debugged. But execution is still much faster than when the code is
> interpreted.
> 
>> e.g. http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/guide/jpda/enhancements.html#fsd
> 
> Sun doesn't describe whether they do any compiling optimization in this
> mode, maybe they do the same thing and call it FSD :)

I believe the term 'full speed' is used loosely, with different
implementations using different levels of optimizations, and everyone
calling it 'full speed'.

I'm fine leaving it out of the report as a highlight, but good to hear
that the capability exists in Harmony.

Regards,
Tim