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Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 17:25:07 +0800
From: "Sean Qiu" <sean.xx.qiu@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [website] Google analytics
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2007/9/14, Tim Ellison <t.p.ellison@gmail.com>:
>
> Yuri Dolgov wrote:
> > I think this is a great idea. I used this tool in my personal blog and
> found
> > it very much.
> > BTW could I ask you to grant me access for harmony.apache.org analytics
> > results?
>
> Hello Yuri, let's just wait a bit longer to see if anyone objects to the
> idea first.
>
> Regards,
> Tim
>
>
> > On 9/14/07, Tim Ellison <t.p.ellison@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Alex Blewitt wrote:
> >>> I've used it for both my personal site and it's also used for
> >>> EclipseZone. Can be quite useful, especially seeing historical and
> >>> spikes in trends (e.g. does it go up because a new version of Harmony
> >>> is packaged with Eclipse?).
> >> Yep, I was also thinking of the discussions that have taken place here
> >> amongst the website folk about trying different designs, and figuring
> >> out how to best layout the site.  Hopefully it would help them with
> some
> >> concrete data.
> >>
> >>> It involves putting some 'pingback' JavaScript code on the website;
> >>> there may be some people morally opposed to doing that, or to going to
> >>> a site that has it. I suspect Google may be more trusted than other
> >>> sites, but there may also be people who dislike any kind of site
> >>> tracking (but then, they'll use NoScript, right?)
> >> Yep, I have to admit I have a slight unease about 'secretly' tracking
> >> people browsing a website, but I guess it is no different to the data
> >> that is already being collected in the weblogs.
> >>
> >>> Does Apache (generally) have policies in this place regarding such
> >>> tracking or advertising in Apache pages that might come into play?
> >> The option of tracking seems to be left to the discretion of the
> project
> >> themselves.  It has been discussed on a couple of lists, and a number
> of
> >> well established ASF projects are using it.  I don't think there is a
> >> formal policy.
> >>
> >> Advertising is different, and there is a stronger opinion about any
> form
> >> of advertising or kick-backs to project supporters (e.g. displaying a
> >> logo in return for a license).  I'm not advocating that we get into
> that
> >> game here.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Tim
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 13/09/2007, Tim Ellison <t.p.ellison@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> I see that a number of other projects are using Google Analytics to
> >>>> measure the effectiveness of their website layout (e.g., can people
> >> find
> >>>> the info they need?) and popularity of pages and downloads (e.g., are
> >>>> the most popular pages prominent?).
> >>>>
> >>>> The details of how it works are here [1], but in essence it is a
> piece
> >>>> of tracking javascript we install in our web pages.
> >>>>
> >>>> Seeing the results would require a Google account, and I suggest we
> >>>> limit access to the data to ASF committers, since they are also the
> >> only
> >>>> ones that can see the website logs on the server machine.
> >>>>
> >>>> WDYT? Would it be useful to our website gurus?
> >>>>
> >>>> [1] http://www.google.com/analytics/
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Tim
> >>>>
> >
>


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Sean Qiu
China Software Development Lab, IBM

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