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From "Mikhail Loenko" <mloe...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [website] Google analytics
Date Fri, 14 Sep 2007 10:14:11 GMT
+1

2007/9/14, Sean Qiu <sean.xx.qiu@gmail.com>:
> +1
>
> 2007/9/14, Tim Ellison <t.p.ellison@gmail.com>:
> >
> > Yuri Dolgov wrote:
> > > I think this is a great idea. I used this tool in my personal blog and
> > found
> > > it very much.
> > > BTW could I ask you to grant me access for harmony.apache.org analytics
> > > results?
> >
> > Hello Yuri, let's just wait a bit longer to see if anyone objects to the
> > idea first.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Tim
> >
> >
> > > On 9/14/07, Tim Ellison <t.p.ellison@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Alex Blewitt wrote:
> > >>> I've used it for both my personal site and it's also used for
> > >>> EclipseZone. Can be quite useful, especially seeing historical and
> > >>> spikes in trends (e.g. does it go up because a new version of Harmony
> > >>> is packaged with Eclipse?).
> > >> Yep, I was also thinking of the discussions that have taken place here
> > >> amongst the website folk about trying different designs, and figuring
> > >> out how to best layout the site.  Hopefully it would help them with
> > some
> > >> concrete data.
> > >>
> > >>> It involves putting some 'pingback' JavaScript code on the website;
> > >>> there may be some people morally opposed to doing that, or to going
to
> > >>> a site that has it. I suspect Google may be more trusted than other
> > >>> sites, but there may also be people who dislike any kind of site
> > >>> tracking (but then, they'll use NoScript, right?)
> > >> Yep, I have to admit I have a slight unease about 'secretly' tracking
> > >> people browsing a website, but I guess it is no different to the data
> > >> that is already being collected in the weblogs.
> > >>
> > >>> Does Apache (generally) have policies in this place regarding such
> > >>> tracking or advertising in Apache pages that might come into play?
> > >> The option of tracking seems to be left to the discretion of the
> > project
> > >> themselves.  It has been discussed on a couple of lists, and a number
> > of
> > >> well established ASF projects are using it.  I don't think there is a
> > >> formal policy.
> > >>
> > >> Advertising is different, and there is a stronger opinion about any
> > form
> > >> of advertising or kick-backs to project supporters (e.g. displaying a
> > >> logo in return for a license).  I'm not advocating that we get into
> > that
> > >> game here.
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >> Tim
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> On 13/09/2007, Tim Ellison <t.p.ellison@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>> I see that a number of other projects are using Google Analytics
to
> > >>>> measure the effectiveness of their website layout (e.g., can people
> > >> find
> > >>>> the info they need?) and popularity of pages and downloads (e.g.,
are
> > >>>> the most popular pages prominent?).
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The details of how it works are here [1], but in essence it is
a
> > piece
> > >>>> of tracking javascript we install in our web pages.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Seeing the results would require a Google account, and I suggest
we
> > >>>> limit access to the data to ASF committers, since they are also
the
> > >> only
> > >>>> ones that can see the website logs on the server machine.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> WDYT? Would it be useful to our website gurus?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> [1] http://www.google.com/analytics/
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Regards,
> > >>>> Tim
> > >>>>
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Sean Qiu
> China Software Development Lab, IBM
>

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