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From Tim Ellison <t.p.elli...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [website] Google analytics
Date Fri, 14 Sep 2007 09:16:45 GMT
Yuri Dolgov wrote:
> I think this is a great idea. I used this tool in my personal blog and found
> it very much.
> BTW could I ask you to grant me access for harmony.apache.org analytics
> results?

Hello Yuri, let's just wait a bit longer to see if anyone objects to the
idea first.

Regards,
Tim


> On 9/14/07, Tim Ellison <t.p.ellison@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Alex Blewitt wrote:
>>> I've used it for both my personal site and it's also used for
>>> EclipseZone. Can be quite useful, especially seeing historical and
>>> spikes in trends (e.g. does it go up because a new version of Harmony
>>> is packaged with Eclipse?).
>> Yep, I was also thinking of the discussions that have taken place here
>> amongst the website folk about trying different designs, and figuring
>> out how to best layout the site.  Hopefully it would help them with some
>> concrete data.
>>
>>> It involves putting some 'pingback' JavaScript code on the website;
>>> there may be some people morally opposed to doing that, or to going to
>>> a site that has it. I suspect Google may be more trusted than other
>>> sites, but there may also be people who dislike any kind of site
>>> tracking (but then, they'll use NoScript, right?)
>> Yep, I have to admit I have a slight unease about 'secretly' tracking
>> people browsing a website, but I guess it is no different to the data
>> that is already being collected in the weblogs.
>>
>>> Does Apache (generally) have policies in this place regarding such
>>> tracking or advertising in Apache pages that might come into play?
>> The option of tracking seems to be left to the discretion of the project
>> themselves.  It has been discussed on a couple of lists, and a number of
>> well established ASF projects are using it.  I don't think there is a
>> formal policy.
>>
>> Advertising is different, and there is a stronger opinion about any form
>> of advertising or kick-backs to project supporters (e.g. displaying a
>> logo in return for a license).  I'm not advocating that we get into that
>> game here.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Tim
>>
>>
>>> On 13/09/2007, Tim Ellison <t.p.ellison@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I see that a number of other projects are using Google Analytics to
>>>> measure the effectiveness of their website layout (e.g., can people
>> find
>>>> the info they need?) and popularity of pages and downloads (e.g., are
>>>> the most popular pages prominent?).
>>>>
>>>> The details of how it works are here [1], but in essence it is a piece
>>>> of tracking javascript we install in our web pages.
>>>>
>>>> Seeing the results would require a Google account, and I suggest we
>>>> limit access to the data to ASF committers, since they are also the
>> only
>>>> ones that can see the website logs on the server machine.
>>>>
>>>> WDYT? Would it be useful to our website gurus?
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://www.google.com/analytics/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Tim
>>>>
> 

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