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From "Alexey Varlamov" <alexey.v.varla...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Eclipse packaged with Harmony at SourceForge
Date Tue, 08 May 2007 05:56:21 GMT
Just a minor remark on the topic: as listed on the site,
"Operating System : 32-bit MS Windows (NT/2000/XP), Linux"

Looks a bit too optimistic for MS Win support, or did I missed smth?

2007/5/7, Alex Blewitt <alex.blewitt@gmail.com>:
> Yes, the page has now been updated to reflect a more accurate
> description of the project. When I posted the original concern, the
> total documentation was "A harmonic combination of Eclipse and Apache
> JRE" and listed as "Production/Stable". I felt that this wasn't an
> accurate summary and didn't emphasise that it was based on a milestone
> release of Harmony (nor mentioning what version it was).
>
> I only raised it because of this discrepancy; and yes, it's good that
> we're getting others to test this and submit JIRAs. I don't think
> that's a bad thing at all; just masquerading it as 'production/stable'
> and without any mention of which version it was based on.
>
> I'm glad that the new description has been changed; it reads much better.
>
> Alex.
>
> On 06/05/07, Tim Ellison <t.p.ellison@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Alex Blewitt wrote:
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > A version of Eclipse packaged with Harmony (possibly the milestone)
> > > has turned up at http://sourceforge.net/projects/eclipse-harmony/
> > > listed as "Production/Stable" and using the description "A harmonic
> > > combination of Eclipse and Apache Harmony JRE."
> > >
> > > There doesn't seem to be any hint that either Harmony has not passed
> > > the TCK at this stage, and nor that it's still a work-in-progress. I
> > > feel that this may give Harmony a bad name since there are known
> > > things that don't work (for example, there was a recent known issue
> > > with the debugger not working with Eclipse, and I don't know if that
> > > has been resolved, or if it has, whether it's in the build that was
> > > used there).
> > >
> > > At the very least, I'm not happy with either the implicit assertion of
> > > stability/testing, or the association with JDK/JRE when we know we've
> > > not passed the TCK yet.
> > >
> > > What do others think?
> > >
> > > Alex.
> >
> > I think you are being a bit harsh Alex.
> >
> > I was aware of this 'packaging' project by Philippe, Gunnar, and Wayne
> > (who are all well respected members within the open source community),
> > which now accurately describes itself as :
> >
> >    "In Harmony With Eclipse is a demonstration of two great open
> >     source projects working together. The package contains the
> >     latest stable release version of Eclipse (3.2.2) running on
> >     a pre-release version of Apache Harmony (5.0M1). It must be
> >     noted that this release is not intended as production-quality
> >     software, but is instead a glimpse of the future. While the
> >     combination of Eclipse and Harmony does work well, there are
> >     limitations. These limitations are being addressed as Eclipse
> >     and Harmony development continues. Your feedback to the Eclipse
> >     and Harmony Teams is welcomed."
> >
> > Of course, Harmony does not claim to be a certified Java implementation.
> >  Our desire to pass the JCK and get certification is well documented;
> > but in the meantime I think it is encouraging that people find value in
> > what we have produced so far.  Having more users and incoming JIRAs for
> > our work in progress won't give Harmony a bad name unless we fail to
> > respond by producing the best compatible implementation out there.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Tim
> >
> >
>

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