From dev-return-25659-apmail-harmony-dev-archive=harmony.apache.org@harmony.apache.org Wed Apr 04 10:49:18 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-harmony-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 26857 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2007 10:49:16 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 4 Apr 2007 10:49:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 35864 invoked by uid 500); 4 Apr 2007 10:49:17 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-harmony-dev-archive@harmony.apache.org Received: (qmail 35834 invoked by uid 500); 4 Apr 2007 10:49:17 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@harmony.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@harmony.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@harmony.apache.org Received: (qmail 35812 invoked by uid 99); 4 Apr 2007 10:49:17 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 04 Apr 2007 03:49:17 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (herse.apache.org: domain of ivavladimir@gmail.com designates 66.249.92.168 as permitted sender) Received: from [66.249.92.168] (HELO ug-out-1314.google.com) (66.249.92.168) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 04 Apr 2007 03:49:08 -0700 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id z36so563891uge for ; Wed, 04 Apr 2007 03:48:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=b/J+pzSAqZPwnTJHKqBBM/FxyOFp7vZAolzhSxA1oJViyuO/oRz5N6GcxoMTtUjkCdIVSh5O/I5wjBubl99v9/FP2vDnQXddWPMO2WHBTbpraC/zcaC2bWs54btk/XoqNOW9RKlFBx5a9rTY/untbucimvwgespHAvFrVXVx9oc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=B6uJfW76xav9C7fHw1IajIsIuyzVumJfKvBRlI1a/TFntyHBRroNf/ipEAxI5bLDGHmaDvnaG/qzWeRAg2PSh/92qxMgkjOYN/W9isgm4/6xwCJQqiKIgWYxrMoBNamOhYxh+icppnzioTp+GzR8TnBWliybBp9HF9Jd6IGlznw= Received: by 10.78.39.16 with SMTP id m16mr57948hum.1175683725438; Wed, 04 Apr 2007 03:48:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.200.14 with HTTP; Wed, 4 Apr 2007 03:48:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7273946b0704040348p47046a72w3327a009b257d18c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 17:48:35 +0700 From: "Vladimir Ivanov" To: dev@harmony.apache.org Subject: Re: [general] Discussion: how to keep up stability and fast progress all together? In-Reply-To: <6e47b64f0704030133u560ba37ck89f99106f5924db2@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <6e47b64f0703300131j291450c8if09efc59914c9076@mail.gmail.com> <460D1B1F.5000006@gmail.com> <6e47b64f0704020210j3b5ac8c9rb81d5871381dd4f@mail.gmail.com> <7273946b0704022036l4057dc02gbeed4697e4970e9d@mail.gmail.com> <6e47b64f0704030133u560ba37ck89f99106f5924db2@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 4/3/07, Stepan Mishura wrote: > On 4/3/07, Vladimir Ivanov wrote: > > > > > > I'd like to propose the next approach that may help us to know about > > > instabilities: develop (or take existing one, for example, Eclipse > > > hello world) a scenario for testing stability and configure CC to run > > > it at all times. The stability scenario must be the only one scenario > > > for CC; it must be short (no longer then an hour), test JRE in stress > > > conditions and cover most of functionality. If the scenario fails then > > > all newly committed updates are subject for investigation and fix (or > > > rollback). > > > > Actually, I prefer something without GUI or at least without using > > special 'GUI testing" tools. It should improve quality of this testing > > (than less tools than more predictable results :)) Current "Eclipse > > hello world" scenario based on the AutoIT for Win and X11GuiTest for > > Linux platform. Also we have this scenario based on API calls which > > should emulate GUI scenario. From these 2 approaches I prefer second > > to minimize 'false alarms'. Or may be some other scenarios (non-GUI)? > > > > Did I understand you correctly that there may be 'false alarms' caused > by using external 'GUI testing' tools? If yes which kind of 'false > alarms' are there? Seems, in some cases the input from the X11GuiTest can be lost in the system :( Also timeouts between different symbols may depends on the system load etc Thanks, Vladimir > > Thanks, > Stepan. > > > Thanks, Vladimir > > > > > > > > > > Thought? Objections? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Stepan. > > > > > > > I read the discussion on naming, and M1, M2, ... is fine by me. How > > > > about we pick a proposed date for Apache Harmony M1? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Tim > > > > > > > > > -- > Stepan Mishura > Intel Enterprise Solutions Software Division >