Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-harmony-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 69388 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2007 11:18:00 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 6 Mar 2007 11:18:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 52294 invoked by uid 500); 6 Mar 2007 11:18:07 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-harmony-dev-archive@harmony.apache.org Received: (qmail 52117 invoked by uid 500); 6 Mar 2007 11:18:06 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@harmony.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@harmony.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@harmony.apache.org Received: (qmail 52104 invoked by uid 99); 6 Mar 2007 11:18:06 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 06 Mar 2007 03:18:06 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (herse.apache.org: domain of mloenko@gmail.com designates 64.233.162.225 as permitted sender) Received: from [64.233.162.225] (HELO nz-out-0506.google.com) (64.233.162.225) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 06 Mar 2007 03:17:56 -0800 Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id j2so1762424nzf for ; Tue, 06 Mar 2007 03:17:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=A4rWQRigZOerqf4sVRLmPIPzTZQ7hVVehnO/bBFYhz8ezvouRNwGr20wvTPVeUGtEyWRsEmYcaQgldIBHyfbfjfXSG1HwZ/s6heQvtIav8/RdSW61MsI9axGNhNBfVsBlGBcNht92RxfltSRTnBxOzVjE1Fnzs4u2u7YxfhXy54= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=HouormSudA6Tu87thnW5ZCNwY5UJfIkwcx8XXZVOty22wdXtf6KQ5blRT0T5MmHONC9QtlS7Hj4tfoZo0nEbFXj04LfrXN/5W8MVRSeyU2us2FDNrXlBqVsuiH9ANIWXiP1Se8qrdTJ39pEdY1mq+Y0LdpxsmR9Mb94Ig/OgWdE= Received: by 10.35.106.15 with SMTP id i15mr16281258pym.1173179855740; Tue, 06 Mar 2007 03:17:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.74.11 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 03:17:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <906dd82e0703060317h5ec22795o1f7062887f58fabf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 17:17:35 +0600 From: "Mikhail Loenko" To: dev@harmony.apache.org Subject: Re: [general] Harmony Q2 release requirements In-Reply-To: <523F3D8D8C97554AA47E53DF1A05466AAE356E@nnsmsx411.ccr.corp.intel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <523F3D8D8C97554AA47E53DF1A05466AAE356E@nnsmsx411.ccr.corp.intel.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org +1 Thanks, Mikhail 2007/3/6, Morozova, Nadezhda : > Hi, > Since the discussion is going on actively, I've thought of gathering the > ideas and publishing on wiki. What do you say? > > Cheers, > Nadya > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Alexey Petrenko [mailto:alexey.a.petrenko@gmail.com] > >Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 12:14 PM > >To: dev@harmony.apache.org > >Subject: Re: [general] Harmony Q2 release requirements > > > >2007/3/5, Mikhail Loenko : > >> 2007/3/5, Alexey Petrenko : > >> > 2007/3/5, Mikhail Loenko : > >> > > According to our high-level roadmap [1] we were going to make our > >> > > first release in Q2. Let's define what we would like to see in > our Q2 > >> > > release. If there are no objections let's discuss what we want > that > >> > > release being able to do. > >> > > > >> > > I suggest that we focus on stability measured by being able to > >> > > successfully run a few solid applications and by pass rates for > the > >> > > test suites. > >> > > So, I think in Q2 we should 1) run reasonable set of applications > 2) > >> > > have reasonable testing infrastructure and 3) pass reasonable set > of > >> > > test suites. > >> > > > >> > > Though we will be happy to accept all the patches that fix > existing > >> > > problems or add missing functionality, I suggest that people who > hang > >> > > around will focus on those scenarios that we will choose here > >> > > > >> > > Objections? :) > >> > No objections! :) > >> > We definitely need a milestone since milestones helps to keep us > and > >> > Harmony in good shape. > >> > > >> > > > >> > > If there are no objections again, I'd like to propose that we > will > >target: > >> > > > >> > > 1) keeping all the enabled apps in the "up" state > >> > > (we will create a list of enabled apps and put them all into > cruise > >control) > >> > > > >> > > 2) running 2-3 open source server-side software > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > 3) running 2-3 open source developers tools > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > 4) setting up necessary testing infrastructure and having near > 100% > >> > > pass rates for the suites we have > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > 5) what about commercial software? Some time ago we agreed that > it's > >> > > OK to report failures/regression of commercial software. Should > we > >> > > have them in the "requirements" to our Q2 release? > >> > > >> > I think that we also need performance targets: run some benchmarks > and > >> > demonstrate reasonable results. > >> > We are using Dacapo and SciMark now [1]. > >> > >> Agreed, we definitely need performance goals > >> > >> > > >> > Do we need some additional benchmarks? And what will the reasonable > >> > target results? > >> > >> No worse than RI 6.0 ? Do you think we can achieve that in Q2? :) > >I think that this can be achieved for a limited set of benchmarks. > > > >SY, Alexey >