Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-harmony-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 5433 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2006 05:49:18 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 20 Dec 2006 05:49:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 71455 invoked by uid 500); 20 Dec 2006 05:49:22 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-harmony-dev-archive@harmony.apache.org Received: (qmail 71426 invoked by uid 500); 20 Dec 2006 05:49:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@harmony.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@harmony.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@harmony.apache.org Received: (qmail 71417 invoked by uid 99); 20 Dec 2006 05:49:22 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 19 Dec 2006 21:49:22 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=10.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (herse.apache.org: domain of alexey.a.petrenko@gmail.com designates 66.249.92.171 as permitted sender) Received: from [66.249.92.171] (HELO ug-out-1314.google.com) (66.249.92.171) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 19 Dec 2006 21:49:12 -0800 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id z36so1693572uge for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2006 21:48:51 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=M0VPZ7yqJDY7ovA1IYKhLXip1UTaY9IrkvnTiBZQW1R7JK2a7ljB0ICKK45lU8oO56RVUO0m0O+TlaR80lsvmtBhJfnWKqu0ThSAZWC4LG0ArU1UEldNP6QjYnF36R2itZxMUxB4DHbClvf/70V9m60kWeo3zzq20wLY04xc6SA= Received: by 10.78.200.3 with SMTP id x3mr4789854huf.1166593730326; Tue, 19 Dec 2006 21:48:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.107.15 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Dec 2006 21:48:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 08:48:50 +0300 From: "Alexey Petrenko" To: dev@harmony.apache.org Subject: Re: [build] Downloading dependencies In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20061219070307.64701.qmail@minotaur.apache.org> <906dd82e0612190200h489f098fo86fd93e9128f32c7@mail.gmail.com> <200612191113.kBJBDe7h020999@d06av02.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com> <45882869.2010603@apache.org> <458854F6.7010006@gmail.com> <45885DDC.9000209@apache.org> <4588661E.9070806@pobox.com> <45887D07.9070209@apache.org> <45889344.7040400@pobox.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org If this library exists in system32 then we do not need to download it or do any additional search. Linker will do it for us. So we can simple remove all mentions of this library from dependencies. But when I suggested this last time someone reported that he has MSVC but does not have this library... This looks really strange. We can remove this dependency and look... :) SY, Alexey 2006/12/20, Leo Li : > Yes, actually we can just get MSVC71.dll from the system32 directory at > least from XP, but as for other windows versions I am not sure the exact > version of MSVC DLL. So is it ok if we do not explicitly get it but use it > while linking by the search path of the os system just like other > kernel32.dll? > > On 12/20/06, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > > > > > > > > Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > > > Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > > >> Do we really need to download this dll? Everyone who has the MSVC > > >> installed should have it, right? > > > > > > I don't care if it's downloaded, linked or magically generated out of > > > looking into tea leaves, the problem is that the build needs manual > > > intervention and this is not documented anywhere. > > > > > > We need to make sure that what we say you need to do is *only* what you > > > need to do. Every other (undocumented step) is annoying and slows our > > > community development down. > > > > Yeah, I get it. My point is that I'm still not convinced we need this > > to be downloaded... > > > > So do we? > > > > geir > > > > > > > >> geir > > >> > > >> > > >> Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > > >>> Tim Ellison wrote: > > >>>> Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > > >>>>> Mark Hindess wrote: > > >>>>>> I tried doing fetch-depends before rebuild but it would fail or > > >>>>>> corrupt > > >>>>>> dependencies often enough that it caused more trouble than it > > solved. > > >>>>>> I can try it again I suppose - IIRC it was ibiblio that was the > > main > > >>>>>> problem and that might have been a temporary issue. > > >>>>> People, you do realize that if fetch-depends breaks that often we > > >>>>> have a > > >>>>> bigger problem than just dealing with faulty updates? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Imagine that every time fetch-depends doesn't work we lose the > > ability > > >>>>> for some guy out there to contribute something to us. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> This is, from a community building perspective, a *way* bigger > > problem > > >>>>> than if the JVM ran at all after it compiled!! > > >>>> I remember the discussion over the msvcr71.dll download. Have there > > been > > >>>> other problems? > > >>> it's still not fixed! > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Leo Li > China Software Development Lab, IBM > >