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From "Sian January" <sianjanu...@googlemail.com>
Subject Re: [build] Building on Eclipse - FYI
Date Fri, 10 Nov 2006 09:29:39 GMT
That sounds great.  It would be really good to be able to flesh out the
DRLVM+Eclipse section if anyone has any relevant experience or information.
I don't have any objections about applying the get-involved patch.

Thanks,

Sian


On 10/11/06, Konovalova, Svetlana <svetlana.konovalova@intel.com> wrote:
>
> Sian,
> I've looked through the patches, and they seem to be great! Thanks!
> But I agree with Nadya, that we should hold off patching
> eclipse-oriented docs. Let's wait and see what eclipse+drlvm gurus will
> say.
> IMHO we can ask the committers to apply get_involved.patch, which was
> created to remove the "Am I Eligible?" section from [1] to [2]. Any
> objections?
>
> Best regards,
> Sveta
>
> [1]http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/subcomponents/classlibrary/dev_ec
> lip
> se.html
> [2]http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/get-involved.html
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sian January [mailto:sianjanuary@googlemail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 6:41 PM
> To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [build] Building on Eclipse - FYI
>
> Yes that sounds fine.  Shall I update my patch to remove the DRLVM
> references, or would you prefer to?  Since I did not write very much
> about
> DRLVM we could leave that out for now and then the person who updates
> "Getting Started with DRLVM" could choose to add something there if
> people
> feel it's appropriate.
>
> Regards,
>
> Sian
>
>
> On 09/11/06, Konovalova, Svetlana <svetlana.konovalova@intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > Folks,
> > Looking through the site and figuring out how to improve the docs that
> > include info on Eclipse, the following ideas came up to my mind:
> > 1) Since the "Developing Apache Harmony Class-library
> > Code with Eclipse" page [1] is mostly class-library oriented, I
> suggest
> > reviewing it to remove purely DRLVM-oriented info and leave the page
> > where it is now [subcomponents/classlibrary/dev_eclipse.html].
> > 2) Add the link from the Quick Help pages to the "Developing Apache
> > Harmony Class-library Code with Eclipse" page [1].
> > 3) Gather purely DRLVM-oriented info to store it in the "Getting
> Started
> > with DRL" doc (hope it won't be wiped off the face of the earth; for
> > details, see the discussion thread: [doc][drlvm] The document "Getting
> > started with DRL" is outdated)
> > In this case, we'll get two docs providing info on developing with
> > Eclipse:
> > [1] - describing how to develop class-library code with Eclipse, and
> "GS
> > with DRL"(or whatever it'll be) describing how to develop DRLVM
> > application in Eclipse.
> > Any objections? What do you think? Please right me if I'm wrong.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Sveta Konovalova
> >
> > [1]
> >
> http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/subcomponents/classlibrary/dev_eclip
> > se.html
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:geir@pobox.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 3:58 PM
> > To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: FW: [build] Building on Eclipse - FYI
> >
> >
> >
> > Egor Pasko wrote:
> > > On the 0x21C day of Apache Harmony Sian January wrote:
> > >> Hello again,
> > >>
> > >> I have had a closer look at the  "Developing Apache Harmony
> > Class-library
> > >> Code with Eclipse" page, and I have noticed that the "Configuring
> > Eclipse"
> > >> and "Develop and Test Code" sections are quite class-library
> > specific.
> > >> Would it be better to leave those sections as they are and add a
> > "Developing
> > >> DRLVM with Eclipse" section on the same page?
> > >
> > > To the moment I am not aware of anybody who would use Eclipse for
> > > DRLVM development. So, it's too early to add a page like this.
> >
> > This will ensure that no one does then - if it's simple to add, lets
> add
> >
> > it...
> >
> > geir
> >
> > >
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>
> > >> Sian
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 07/11/06, Konovalova, Svetlana <svetlana.konovalova@intel.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Sian,
> > >>> Sorry for delay in response.
> > >>>> I'd like to help with documentation but I don't want to duplicate
> > any
> > >>> work
> > >>>> that you are in the middle of, so let me know if there's anything
> > >>> specific >I can do...
> > >>> Thanks for your desire to help!
> > >>> Well, let's work at the page "Developing Apache Harmony
> > Class-library
> > >>> Code with Eclipse"
> > >>>
> >
> [http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/subcomponents/classlibrary/dev_ecli
> > >>> pse.html] first, if you do not mind.
> > >>> AFAIK the majority of items on the page can equally apply to DRLVM
> > and
> > >>> classlib. IMHO would be great to edit the page to remove
> unnecessary
> > >>> focus on classlib, to make the page equally relevant for vm
> > developers.
> > >>> To my mind, the introductory sections should be removed, as they
> are
> > >>> about generalities that do not always relate to the header of the
> > page.
> > >>> Could you please take a close look at the page and create the
> patch
> > to
> > >>> improve the content and to remove all classlib-specific info? You
> > can
> > >>> use Harmony-2009 for it. It would be a great impact into
> development
> > of
> > >>> the site documentation for sure! If you need my help, just let me
> > know.
> > >>> The second idea is to move the page up, not to store it in
> > >>> subcomponents/classlib. To make it easily accessible, we can store
> > it in
> > >>> top xdocs folder and link to the page from documentation.html,
> quick
> > >>> helps and other build-development web pages.
> > >>> If you do not have any objections, I can create a patch with the
> > >>> necessary links.
> > >>> What do you think?
> > >>>
> > >>> Best regards,
> > >>> Sveta
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: Sian January [mailto:sianjanuary@googlemail.com]
> > >>> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 2:23 PM
> > >>> To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > >>> Subject: Re: [build] Building on Eclipse - FYI
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi Sveta,
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks for all your work on this.  I think you're right about the
> > >>> Eclipse
> > >>> information - I think most of it is fairly generic and it would be
> > good
> > >>> to
> > >>> have it in the "Project Documentation" section.  I believe the new
> > >>> details
> > >>> about the ecj jar and the PDE-related settings are
> classlib-specific
> > (-
> > >>> Dpde.jreProfile=none etc), but that could probably be mentioned in
> > the
> > >>> document.
> > >>>
> > >>> I'd like to help with documentation but I don't want to duplicate
> > any
> > >>> work
> > >>> that you are in the middle of, so let me know if there's anything
> > >>> specific I
> > >>> can do, or if you're nearly finished then I can leave this area to
> > you
> > >>> and
> > >>> get involved in the future.
> > >>>
> > >>> Regards,
> > >>>
> > >>> Sian
> > >>>
> > >>> On 31/10/06, Konovalova, Svetlana <svetlana.konovalova@intel.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>>> Sian,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thank you so much for your positive feedback and appreciating the
> > >>> page.
> > >>>> This page is only related to classlib. But IMHO many of the
> things
> > are
> > >>>> pretty generic, and with minimal edits can be fit
> > >>>> for VM as well. I suggest that we move this doc up to make it
> more
> > >>>> visible and edit it so as to apply to the whole project, rather
> > than
> > >>> to
> > >>>> classlib only. To my mind, the "Project Documentation" section
is
> a
> > >>> good
> > >>>> place
> > >>>> for this doc
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> >
> [http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/documentation/documentation.html].
> > >>>> How about that?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> As for the "GS with DRLVM" doc, it needs an update, and can be
> > >>> abridged
> > >>>> to reduce purely eclipse-oriented content. We can remove
> > unnecessary
> > >>>> screenshots as well.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Feel free to take an active part in updating the doc, if you have
> > time
> > >>>> and desire :)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Best regards,
> > >>>> Sveta
> > >>>>
> > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>> From: Sian January [mailto:sianjanuary@googlemail.com]
> > >>>> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 8:14 PM
> > >>>> To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > >>>> Subject: Re: [build] Building on Eclipse - FYI
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Hi Sveta,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks for doing that - I have had a look through your patch and
> it
> > >>>> looks
> > >>>> really good.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Your suggestions for changes to the DRLVM document look good too.
> > I
> > >>>> couldn't really find any good links for getting started with Java
> > >>>> programming in Eclipse on their website, the only thing that came
> > >>> close
> > >>>> was
> > >>>> this - http://help.eclipse.org/help32/index.jsp, which has some
> > >>> getting
> > >>>> started tutorials within the page.  There might be some better
> > >>> articles
> > >>>> out
> > >>>> there on other sites though, or we could just direct people to
> the
> > >>> help
> > >>>> system or 'cheat sheets' within their Eclipse installation.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Sian
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Sian January
> > >>
> > >> IBM Java Technology Centre, UK
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Sian January
>
> IBM Java Technology Centre, UK
>



-- 
Sian January

IBM Java Technology Centre, UK

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