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From "Morozova, Nadezhda" <nadezhda.moroz...@intel.com>
Subject RE: [doc][drlvm] The document "Getting started with DRL" is outdated
Date Thu, 09 Nov 2006 11:40:01 GMT
Those were the copyrights required by our legal at the donation time. I
share your concern. We probably need a massive review/cleanup of our
legal lines. The disclaimers (number and placement) varies between
different docs.

Thank you, 
Nadya Morozova
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alexei Fedotov [mailto:alexei.fedotov@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:22 AM
To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [doc][drlvm] The document "Getting started with DRL" is
outdated

Nadya,

I have failed to find web pages copyrighted by IBM on Apache using
Google. Apache copyright usually contains no more than two lines. This
page has fourty lines of legal staff. Is it really needed?

Thanks!


On 11/8/06, Morozova, Nadezhda <nadezhda.morozova@intel.com> wrote:
> All,
> I'd like to share everyone's grief at the sight of outdated Getting
> Started document. However, I'd not hurry to eliminate the page as
such.
> We might reconsider some of its contents, change structure, and update
> individual bits, but please think carefully before removing the page.
>
> I think Getting Started (as the title shows) is aimed to help a newbie
> work with our vm. I know that many primarily interested in other
things
> - conformance, architecture, internal specifics. However, we should
also
> think how the vm is used. AFAIK, Getting started is now the *only* doc
> that tries to show how to use our vm. You tell people how to download
> and build, but almost nothing about how to run and configure (with the
> exception of EM/JIT).
>
> My suggestion would be to think of what you want to tell people about
> usage - with or without eclipse specifics. And store this info on the
> page. I know it is hard - and I offer my help and support in this
> burdensome initiative. Any thoughts? i might be inobjective and
> emotional :)
>
> Thank you,
> Nadya Morozova
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mikhail Fursov [mailto:mike.fursov@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 6:03 PM
> To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [doc][drlvm] The document "Getting started with DRL" is
> outdated
>
> It's not a hard to write a documenation once, it's hard to support it
:)
> More problems:
> 1) -Xem options are obsolete.
> 2) -Xjit options are also obsolete.
> 3) Do we really need this page today? AFAIU users expect Harmony VM is
> able
> to run the same apps as RI..
> ?
>
> On 11/8/06, Pavel Ozhdikhin <pavel.ozhdikhin@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello all,
> > I've read through the "Getting Started with
> > DRL<
> >
>
http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/subcomponents/drlvm/getting_started.
> html
> > >"
> > document on the Harmony web and found it completely outdated, for
> example:
> >
> >
> >    - the term DRL is used instead of DRLVM
> >    - eclipse.bat and eclipse.sh are obsolete - we don't need them
> anymore
> >    to run Eclipse. It can be started with DRLVM the same way as with
> any
> > other
> >    VM.
> >    - We don't need to set PATH and LD_LIBRARY_PATH anymore, at least
> on
> >    Windows/MSVC
> >    - ij was renamed to java
> >
> > We took a big step to unification with other Java VMs and now
> > we don't need anything specific to run Eclipse, for example. After
> > removing
> > all irrelevant info the document would contain only the list of
> > command-line
> > options. I think we can move this list to a separate document (Wiki,
> > Developer's Guide?) and remove the "Getting Started" itself.
> >
> > Any opinions?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Pavel
> > <
> >
>
http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/subcomponents/drlvm/getting_started.
> html
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Mikhail Fursov
>


-- 
Thank you,
Alexei

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