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From "Morozova, Nadezhda" <nadezhda.moroz...@intel.com>
Subject RE: [doc][drlvm] The document "Getting started with DRL" is outdated
Date Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:47:39 GMT
All,
I'd like to share everyone's grief at the sight of outdated Getting
Started document. However, I'd not hurry to eliminate the page as such.
We might reconsider some of its contents, change structure, and update
individual bits, but please think carefully before removing the page.

I think Getting Started (as the title shows) is aimed to help a newbie
work with our vm. I know that many primarily interested in other things
- conformance, architecture, internal specifics. However, we should also
think how the vm is used. AFAIK, Getting started is now the *only* doc
that tries to show how to use our vm. You tell people how to download
and build, but almost nothing about how to run and configure (with the
exception of EM/JIT). 

My suggestion would be to think of what you want to tell people about
usage - with or without eclipse specifics. And store this info on the
page. I know it is hard - and I offer my help and support in this
burdensome initiative. Any thoughts? i might be inobjective and
emotional :)

Thank you, 
Nadya Morozova
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Mikhail Fursov [mailto:mike.fursov@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 6:03 PM
To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [doc][drlvm] The document "Getting started with DRL" is
outdated

It's not a hard to write a documenation once, it's hard to support it :)
More problems:
1) -Xem options are obsolete.
2) -Xjit options are also obsolete.
3) Do we really need this page today? AFAIU users expect Harmony VM is
able
to run the same apps as RI..
?

On 11/8/06, Pavel Ozhdikhin <pavel.ozhdikhin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
> I've read through the "Getting Started with
> DRL<
>
http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/subcomponents/drlvm/getting_started.
html
> >"
> document on the Harmony web and found it completely outdated, for
example:
>
>
>    - the term DRL is used instead of DRLVM
>    - eclipse.bat and eclipse.sh are obsolete - we don't need them
anymore
>    to run Eclipse. It can be started with DRLVM the same way as with
any
> other
>    VM.
>    - We don't need to set PATH and LD_LIBRARY_PATH anymore, at least
on
>    Windows/MSVC
>    - ij was renamed to java
>
> We took a big step to unification with other Java VMs and now
> we don't need anything specific to run Eclipse, for example. After
> removing
> all irrelevant info the document would contain only the list of
> command-line
> options. I think we can move this list to a separate document (Wiki,
> Developer's Guide?) and remove the "Getting Started" itself.
>
> Any opinions?
>
> Thanks,
> Pavel
> <
>
http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/subcomponents/drlvm/getting_started.
html
> >
>
>


-- 
Mikhail Fursov

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