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From "Geir Magnusson Jr." <g...@pobox.com>
Subject Re: [general] upcoming snapshot (JDK this time)
Date Thu, 30 Nov 2006 13:37:32 GMT


Morozova, Nadezhda wrote:
>> The kind of docs that would be appropriate are the docs you get with
>> Sun's JDK, and to be frank, I think that's one single README.html :)
> 
> We can have a similar starting-point webpage with an intro. I can write
> such a page. Some website pages can be relevant as well. We can rewrite
> the relevant parts in the starting page or include them in the snapshot
> as they are. Suggested pages to be included with the build:
> - Quickhelp_users.html - how to start using the snapshot, configure env.
> etc
> - Status.html and roadmap.html - info on what to expect from the
> snapshot
> - Faq.html - common questions on the project
> - Documentation.html - links to all docs that we have

Sounds great!

> 
>> I think a page of docs with links back to our "universe" would be cool,
>> but I'm not sure what a user would get out of a full set of docs.  But
>> that said, I don't see much real harm if it isn't too big...  how big
> is
>> it?
> I guess the component docs weigh the most because they have graphics.
> Classlib docs amount to 1.29Mb, drlvm docs to over 3Mb.
> 
> Cheers, 
> Nadya
>  
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:geir@pobox.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 10:00 AM
>> To: dev@harmony.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: [general] upcoming snapshot (JDK this time)
>>
>> Well, I'll note  that there's no source in this - it's a binary build.
>>
>> The kind of docs that would be appropriate are the docs you get with
>> Sun's JDK, and to be frank, I think that's one single README.html :)
>>
>> I think a page of docs with links back to our "universe" would be cool,
>> but I'm not sure what a user would get out of a full set of docs.  But
>> that said, I don't see much real harm if it isn't too big...  how big
> is
>> it?
>>
>> geir
>>
>>
>> Morozova, Nadezhda wrote:
>>> I've thought of the site pages only, at least this time.
>>> Pages like quick helps, component definitions (build-test framework,
>>> classlib and drlvm), roadmap to name a few.
>>> I'd think more and send a proposal - if this is in line with others'
>>> opinions.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Nadya
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:geir@pobox.com]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:52 AM
>>>> To: dev@harmony.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [general] upcoming snapshot (JDK this time)
>>>>
>>>> Docs are good.  What did you have in mind?
>>>>
>>>> This is a user oriented snapshot - to get people to test things, so
> I'm
>>>> not sure if things like our doxygen output is appropriate...
>>>>
>>>> geir
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Morozova, Nadezhda wrote:
>>>>> Geir,
>>>>> Do you think we shall include any docs with this snapshot? Or would
>>> your
>>>>> innovation with JDK be enough newness this time?
>>>>> If you do plan to include some docs, I could do some thinking and
>>> make a
>>>>> proposal on which should go. Just say you need it and I'll have it
> in
>>> a
>>>>> couple of hours :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Nadya
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:geir@pobox.com]
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:29 AM
>>>>>> To: dev@harmony.apache.org
>>>>>> Subject: [general] upcoming snapshot (JDK this time)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I forsee that tomorrow or friday I'll have enough done in jdktools
>>> so
>>>>> we
>>>>>> can do our first JDK snapshot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It should have javac and java at the minimum and a real jdk-like
>>>>> layout.
>>>>>> Are there any concerns or holds in classlib or drlvm right now?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's high time we do another, and would be cool to make the switch
>>> and
>>>>>> add the JDK
>>>>>>
>>>>>> geir

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