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From "Geir Magnusson Jr." <g...@pobox.com>
Subject Re: FW: [build] Building on Eclipse - FYI
Date Thu, 09 Nov 2006 15:56:40 GMT


Egor Pasko wrote:
> On the 0x21C day of Apache Harmony Geir Magnusson, Jr. wrote:
>> Egor Pasko wrote:
>>> On the 0x21C day of Apache Harmony Geir Magnusson, Jr. wrote:
>>>> Egor Pasko wrote:
>>>>> On the 0x21C day of Apache Harmony Sian January wrote:
>>>>>> Hello again,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have had a closer look at the  "Developing Apache Harmony Class-library
>>>>>> Code with Eclipse" page, and I have noticed that the "Configuring
Eclipse"
>>>>>> and "Develop and Test Code" sections are quite class-library specific.
>>>>>> Would it be better to leave those sections as they are and add a
"Developing
>>>>>> DRLVM with Eclipse" section on the same page?
>>>>> To the moment I am not aware of anybody who would use Eclipse for
>>>>> DRLVM development. So, it's too early to add a page like this.
>>>> This will ensure that no one does then - if it's simple to add, lets
>>>> add it...
>>> Does it help anybody? I see no point in doing redundant work even if
>>> it is small.
>> Why is it redundant?
> 
> Nobody uses, nobody reads -> redundant. Am I missing something? :)

if we don't have it, of course nobody uses or reads it...



> 
>>> Who would give Eclipse a try just to write a redundant doc? I wrote a
>>> GDB howto because I use it and have some helpful things to say. I
>>> would have been glad to know if someone has similar experience with
>>> Eclipse+DRLVM.
>>>
>>>> geir
>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sian
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 07/11/06, Konovalova, Svetlana <svetlana.konovalova@intel.com>
wrote:
>>>>>>> Sian,
>>>>>>> Sorry for delay in response.
>>>>>>>> I'd like to help with documentation but I don't want to duplicate
any
>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>> that you are in the middle of, so let me know if there's
anything
>>>>>>> specific >I can do...
>>>>>>> Thanks for your desire to help!
>>>>>>> Well, let's work at the page "Developing Apache Harmony Class-library
>>>>>>> Code with Eclipse"
>>>>>>> [http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/subcomponents/classlibrary/dev_ecli
>>>>>>> pse.html] first, if you do not mind.
>>>>>>> AFAIK the majority of items on the page can equally apply to
DRLVM and
>>>>>>> classlib. IMHO would be great to edit the page to remove unnecessary
>>>>>>> focus on classlib, to make the page equally relevant for vm developers.
>>>>>>> To my mind, the introductory sections should be removed, as they
are
>>>>>>> about generalities that do not always relate to the header of
the page.
>>>>>>> Could you please take a close look at the page and create the
patch to
>>>>>>> improve the content and to remove all classlib-specific info?
You can
>>>>>>> use Harmony-2009 for it. It would be a great impact into development
of
>>>>>>> the site documentation for sure! If you need my help, just let
me know.
>>>>>>> The second idea is to move the page up, not to store it in
>>>>>>> subcomponents/classlib. To make it easily accessible, we can
store it in
>>>>>>> top xdocs folder and link to the page from documentation.html,
quick
>>>>>>> helps and other build-development web pages.
>>>>>>> If you do not have any objections, I can create a patch with
the
>>>>>>> necessary links.
>>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>> Sveta
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Sian January [mailto:sianjanuary@googlemail.com]
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 2:23 PM
>>>>>>> To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [build] Building on Eclipse - FYI
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Sveta,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for all your work on this.  I think you're right about
the
>>>>>>> Eclipse
>>>>>>> information - I think most of it is fairly generic and it would
be good
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> have it in the "Project Documentation" section.  I believe the
new
>>>>>>> details
>>>>>>> about the ecj jar and the PDE-related settings are classlib-specific
(-
>>>>>>> Dpde.jreProfile=none etc), but that could probably be mentioned
in the
>>>>>>> document.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd like to help with documentation but I don't want to duplicate
any
>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>> that you are in the middle of, so let me know if there's anything
>>>>>>> specific I
>>>>>>> can do, or if you're nearly finished then I can leave this area
to you
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> get involved in the future.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sian
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 31/10/06, Konovalova, Svetlana <svetlana.konovalova@intel.com>
wrote:
>>>>>>>> Sian,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you so much for your positive feedback and appreciating
the
>>>>>>> page.
>>>>>>>> This page is only related to classlib. But IMHO many of the
things are
>>>>>>>> pretty generic, and with minimal edits can be fit
>>>>>>>> for VM as well. I suggest that we move this doc up to make
it more
>>>>>>>> visible and edit it so as to apply to the whole project,
rather than
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> classlib only. To my mind, the "Project Documentation" section
is a
>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>>> place
>>>>>>>> for this doc
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/documentation/documentation.html].
>>>>>>>> How about that?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As for the "GS with DRLVM" doc, it needs an update, and can
be
>>>>>>> abridged
>>>>>>>> to reduce purely eclipse-oriented content. We can remove
unnecessary
>>>>>>>> screenshots as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Feel free to take an active part in updating the doc, if
you have time
>>>>>>>> and desire :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>> Sveta
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Sian January [mailto:sianjanuary@googlemail.com]
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 8:14 PM
>>>>>>>> To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [build] Building on Eclipse - FYI
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Sveta,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for doing that - I have had a look through your patch
and it
>>>>>>>> looks
>>>>>>>> really good.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Your suggestions for changes to the DRLVM document look good
too.  I
>>>>>>>> couldn't really find any good links for getting started with
Java
>>>>>>>> programming in Eclipse on their website, the only thing that
came
>>>>>>> close
>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>> this - http://help.eclipse.org/help32/index.jsp, which has
some
>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>>> started tutorials within the page.  There might be some better
>>>>>>> articles
>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>> there on other sites though, or we could just direct people
to the
>>>>>>> help
>>>>>>>> system or 'cheat sheets' within their Eclipse installation.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sian
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Sian January
>>>>>>
>>>>>> IBM Java Technology Centre, UK
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