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From "Geir Magnusson Jr." <g...@pobox.com>
Subject Re: [doc][drlvm] The document "Getting started with DRL" is outdated
Date Thu, 09 Nov 2006 12:58:26 GMT
yah, I've been pitching them when i run across them... :)

geir

Morozova, Nadezhda wrote:
> Those were the copyrights required by our legal at the donation time. I
> share your concern. We probably need a massive review/cleanup of our
> legal lines. The disclaimers (number and placement) varies between
> different docs.
> 
> Thank you, 
> Nadya Morozova
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alexei Fedotov [mailto:alexei.fedotov@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:22 AM
> To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [doc][drlvm] The document "Getting started with DRL" is
> outdated
> 
> Nadya,
> 
> I have failed to find web pages copyrighted by IBM on Apache using
> Google. Apache copyright usually contains no more than two lines. This
> page has fourty lines of legal staff. Is it really needed?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> On 11/8/06, Morozova, Nadezhda <nadezhda.morozova@intel.com> wrote:
>> All,
>> I'd like to share everyone's grief at the sight of outdated Getting
>> Started document. However, I'd not hurry to eliminate the page as
> such.
>> We might reconsider some of its contents, change structure, and update
>> individual bits, but please think carefully before removing the page.
>>
>> I think Getting Started (as the title shows) is aimed to help a newbie
>> work with our vm. I know that many primarily interested in other
> things
>> - conformance, architecture, internal specifics. However, we should
> also
>> think how the vm is used. AFAIK, Getting started is now the *only* doc
>> that tries to show how to use our vm. You tell people how to download
>> and build, but almost nothing about how to run and configure (with the
>> exception of EM/JIT).
>>
>> My suggestion would be to think of what you want to tell people about
>> usage - with or without eclipse specifics. And store this info on the
>> page. I know it is hard - and I offer my help and support in this
>> burdensome initiative. Any thoughts? i might be inobjective and
>> emotional :)
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Nadya Morozova
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mikhail Fursov [mailto:mike.fursov@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 6:03 PM
>> To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: [doc][drlvm] The document "Getting started with DRL" is
>> outdated
>>
>> It's not a hard to write a documenation once, it's hard to support it
> :)
>> More problems:
>> 1) -Xem options are obsolete.
>> 2) -Xjit options are also obsolete.
>> 3) Do we really need this page today? AFAIU users expect Harmony VM is
>> able
>> to run the same apps as RI..
>> ?
>>
>> On 11/8/06, Pavel Ozhdikhin <pavel.ozhdikhin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>> I've read through the "Getting Started with
>>> DRL<
>>>
> http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/subcomponents/drlvm/getting_started.
>> html
>>>> "
>>> document on the Harmony web and found it completely outdated, for
>> example:
>>>
>>>    - the term DRL is used instead of DRLVM
>>>    - eclipse.bat and eclipse.sh are obsolete - we don't need them
>> anymore
>>>    to run Eclipse. It can be started with DRLVM the same way as with
>> any
>>> other
>>>    VM.
>>>    - We don't need to set PATH and LD_LIBRARY_PATH anymore, at least
>> on
>>>    Windows/MSVC
>>>    - ij was renamed to java
>>>
>>> We took a big step to unification with other Java VMs and now
>>> we don't need anything specific to run Eclipse, for example. After
>>> removing
>>> all irrelevant info the document would contain only the list of
>>> command-line
>>> options. I think we can move this list to a separate document (Wiki,
>>> Developer's Guide?) and remove the "Getting Started" itself.
>>>
>>> Any opinions?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Pavel
>>> <
>>>
> http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/subcomponents/drlvm/getting_started.
>> html
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Mikhail Fursov
>>
> 
> 

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