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From "Geir Magnusson Jr." <g...@pobox.com>
Subject Re: FW: [build] Building on Eclipse - FYI
Date Thu, 09 Nov 2006 12:57:48 GMT


Egor Pasko wrote:
> On the 0x21C day of Apache Harmony Sian January wrote:
>> Hello again,
>>
>> I have had a closer look at the  "Developing Apache Harmony Class-library
>> Code with Eclipse" page, and I have noticed that the "Configuring Eclipse"
>> and "Develop and Test Code" sections are quite class-library specific.
>> Would it be better to leave those sections as they are and add a "Developing
>> DRLVM with Eclipse" section on the same page?
> 
> To the moment I am not aware of anybody who would use Eclipse for
> DRLVM development. So, it's too early to add a page like this.

This will ensure that no one does then - if it's simple to add, lets add 
it...

geir

>  
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Sian
>>
>>
>>
>> On 07/11/06, Konovalova, Svetlana <svetlana.konovalova@intel.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Sian,
>>> Sorry for delay in response.
>>>> I'd like to help with documentation but I don't want to duplicate any
>>> work
>>>> that you are in the middle of, so let me know if there's anything
>>> specific >I can do...
>>> Thanks for your desire to help!
>>> Well, let's work at the page "Developing Apache Harmony Class-library
>>> Code with Eclipse"
>>> [http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/subcomponents/classlibrary/dev_ecli
>>> pse.html] first, if you do not mind.
>>> AFAIK the majority of items on the page can equally apply to DRLVM and
>>> classlib. IMHO would be great to edit the page to remove unnecessary
>>> focus on classlib, to make the page equally relevant for vm developers.
>>> To my mind, the introductory sections should be removed, as they are
>>> about generalities that do not always relate to the header of the page.
>>> Could you please take a close look at the page and create the patch to
>>> improve the content and to remove all classlib-specific info? You can
>>> use Harmony-2009 for it. It would be a great impact into development of
>>> the site documentation for sure! If you need my help, just let me know.
>>> The second idea is to move the page up, not to store it in
>>> subcomponents/classlib. To make it easily accessible, we can store it in
>>> top xdocs folder and link to the page from documentation.html, quick
>>> helps and other build-development web pages.
>>> If you do not have any objections, I can create a patch with the
>>> necessary links.
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Sveta
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Sian January [mailto:sianjanuary@googlemail.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 2:23 PM
>>> To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: [build] Building on Eclipse - FYI
>>>
>>> Hi Sveta,
>>>
>>> Thanks for all your work on this.  I think you're right about the
>>> Eclipse
>>> information - I think most of it is fairly generic and it would be good
>>> to
>>> have it in the "Project Documentation" section.  I believe the new
>>> details
>>> about the ecj jar and the PDE-related settings are classlib-specific (-
>>> Dpde.jreProfile=none etc), but that could probably be mentioned in the
>>> document.
>>>
>>> I'd like to help with documentation but I don't want to duplicate any
>>> work
>>> that you are in the middle of, so let me know if there's anything
>>> specific I
>>> can do, or if you're nearly finished then I can leave this area to you
>>> and
>>> get involved in the future.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Sian
>>>
>>> On 31/10/06, Konovalova, Svetlana <svetlana.konovalova@intel.com> wrote:
>>>> Sian,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you so much for your positive feedback and appreciating the
>>> page.
>>>> This page is only related to classlib. But IMHO many of the things are
>>>> pretty generic, and with minimal edits can be fit
>>>> for VM as well. I suggest that we move this doc up to make it more
>>>> visible and edit it so as to apply to the whole project, rather than
>>> to
>>>> classlib only. To my mind, the "Project Documentation" section is a
>>> good
>>>> place
>>>> for this doc
>>>>
>>> [http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/documentation/documentation.html].
>>>> How about that?
>>>>
>>>> As for the "GS with DRLVM" doc, it needs an update, and can be
>>> abridged
>>>> to reduce purely eclipse-oriented content. We can remove unnecessary
>>>> screenshots as well.
>>>>
>>>> Feel free to take an active part in updating the doc, if you have time
>>>> and desire :)
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Sveta
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Sian January [mailto:sianjanuary@googlemail.com]
>>>> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 8:14 PM
>>>> To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [build] Building on Eclipse - FYI
>>>>
>>>> Hi Sveta,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for doing that - I have had a look through your patch and it
>>>> looks
>>>> really good.
>>>>
>>>> Your suggestions for changes to the DRLVM document look good too.  I
>>>> couldn't really find any good links for getting started with Java
>>>> programming in Eclipse on their website, the only thing that came
>>> close
>>>> was
>>>> this - http://help.eclipse.org/help32/index.jsp, which has some
>>> getting
>>>> started tutorials within the page.  There might be some better
>>> articles
>>>> out
>>>> there on other sites though, or we could just direct people to the
>>> help
>>>> system or 'cheat sheets' within their Eclipse installation.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Sian
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Sian January
>>
>> IBM Java Technology Centre, UK
> 

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