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Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:18:16 +0100
From: "Alex Blewitt" <alex.blewitt@gmail.com>
To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org, geir@pobox.com
Subject: Re: Re: [general] POLL : supported platforms
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Even better:

Yes
No
Maybe

:-)

On 18/10/06, Geir Magnusson Jr. <geir@pobox.com> wrote:
> Better :
>
> Supported
> Not-Supported
> In-Progress
>
>
> Mikhail Fursov wrote:
> > Mikhail,
> > I support your classification: it covers all types I can imagine.
> >
> > Here is my proposal of naming:
> > 1) "not supported"
> > 2) "product" or "supported"
> > 3) "incubation"
> >
> >
> > On 10/18/06, Mikhail Loenko <mloenko@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Well, I think there are at least three categories of platforms:
> >>
> >> 1) Platforms that we don't care about
> >> 2) Platforms that we think work and we want them working
> >> 3) Platforms that we want working but they still don't
> >>
> >> We definitely have to roll back the commits that break #2.
> >>
> >> We need some 'protection' policy to make it possible for platforms
> >> to graduate from #3 to #2
> >>
> >> And we need some criteria to define how #1 could become #3
> >>
> >> And we need names for the categories that are not misleading
> >>
> >> Comments?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Mikhail
> >>
> >> 2006/10/18, Geir Magnusson Jr. <geir@pobox.com>:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Mikhail Fursov wrote:
> >> > > Mikhail,
> >> > > The situation is possible with some Linux clones.
> >> > > And if we have such a situation I propose to take into account if we
> >> have a
> >> > > commiter/volunteer to check this platform.
> >> > > If we have a volunteer  - we support it.
> >> > >
> >> > > Another question is: what if volunteer is gone and no one supports
> >> the
> >> > > platform? Will we claim that Harmony no longer supports the platform?
> >> >
> >> > No - to be supported, we have to agree as a community.  I'm wary about
> >> > there being one-person-supported platforms.
> >> >
> >> > We can easily have two categories -
> >> >
> >> > a) platforms that we certify as being compatible, and support
> >> >
> >> > b) platforms that we certify as being compatible, but don't make any
> >> > support promises
> >> >
> >> > geir
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > > On 10/18/06, Mikhail Loenko <mloenko@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> 2006/10/17, Geir Magnusson Jr. <geir@pobox.com>:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Mikhail Loenko wrote:
> >> > >> > > 2006/10/17, Geir Magnusson Jr. <geir@pobox.com>:
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >> Mikhail Fursov wrote:
> >> > >> > > I think if we decide to support a platform then we define a set
> >> of
> >> > >> tests
> >> > >> > > that
> >> > >> > > must pass on that platform after each commit and we do roll back
> >> if
> >> > >> they
> >> > >> > > fail. That is how I understand "support"
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Lets define support as passing >90% of classlib unit and
> >> > >> > smoke/c-unit/kernel in DRLVM
> >> > >>
> >> > >> It might be a criteria for addition to the set of supported, but
> >> can't
> >> > >> be a definition.
> >> > >> Logically there could be a platform that we don't know, but that
> >> platform
> >> > >> could
> >> > >> pass 99% of the tests, do you think we can support a platform we
> >> don't
> >> > >> have any
> >> > >> idea about?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Thanks,
> >> > >> Mikhail
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > geir
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
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