Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-harmony-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 38984 invoked from network); 16 Oct 2006 08:08:00 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 16 Oct 2006 08:08:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 35328 invoked by uid 500); 16 Oct 2006 08:07:57 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-harmony-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 35294 invoked by uid 500); 16 Oct 2006 08:07:57 -0000 Mailing-List: contact harmony-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 35278 invoked by uid 99); 16 Oct 2006 08:07:57 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 01:07:56 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=10.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_06_12,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: domain of t.p.ellison@gmail.com designates 66.249.92.173 as permitted sender) Received: from [66.249.92.173] (HELO ug-out-1314.google.com) (66.249.92.173) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 01:07:54 -0700 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id y2so933310uge for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 01:07:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=IUcmg9lZAwe7SAhBtVF5dU8iUtL5o6ePwqAPYr0izeaD9E/d8PuTfFr6AyI18wZcnKmZfXMtBg+lZdN/9zCPx2qqogp4n0zUchLibqshebdYGPoDG1uATU6+EKjG9f2/zGDoq56os68aWXqjyhfba1lvPp4EuepvHzAL8riDqBo= Received: by 10.66.220.17 with SMTP id s17mr7679582ugg; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 01:07:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?9.20.183.173? ( [195.212.29.75]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id u6sm1424113uge.2006.10.16.01.07.32; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 01:07:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <45329D67.6050004@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 15:43:19 -0500 From: Tim Ellison User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [general] define pre-commit testing configs to gain the stability References: <469bff730610060930j755b9351vb299357b4e6240cd@mail.gmail.com> <469bff730610092128g2cc6bf3mede75c81fac86b9b@mail.gmail.com> <4dd1f3f00610121607p34a52c7ek5b56098df4e90915@mail.gmail.com> <452ECB68.5030202@pobox.com> <4dd1f3f00610121625i376a055fr4b562657003a121c@mail.gmail.com> <452EE055.5080403@pobox.com> <4dd1f3f00610122320i2de4627dpc253b7ff9ecd16ea@mail.gmail.com> <452F5525.6010603@pobox.com> <45308402.9040201@gmail.com> <45310C90.4040308@pobox.com> <12385bbd0610141609i5f2e878eq48cfd19074d638e3@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <12385bbd0610141609i5f2e878eq48cfd19074d638e3@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Ivan Volosyuk wrote: > What an interesting discussion! I have just read this out. :) > > IMHO, all of the discussion is focused on the scalability of > bazar-like development as it exists here in harmony incubator: > > If something wrong is commited, then everyone has broken build or > something doesn't work. - This is bad. System is badly scalable. What > can we do here? > > If build is broken, then the cause might be found by someone and > posted on harmony-dev. - This is good. And it has good scalability :) Exactly -- we don't expect committers to be infallible or have every type of machine and OS version that we intend to 'support' (i.e. keep running), so we cannot have a model that requires such extensive pre-commit testing. Of course, we therefore need full community approval to declare some revision of code stable, but our bazaar-like diversity is truly an asset. Regards, Tim -- Tim Ellison (t.p.ellison@gmail.com) IBM Java technology centre, UK. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Terms of use : http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/mailing.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: harmony-dev-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: harmony-dev-help@incubator.apache.org