Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-harmony-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 33884 invoked from network); 16 Aug 2006 20:13:51 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 16 Aug 2006 20:13:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 11726 invoked by uid 500); 16 Aug 2006 20:13:39 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-harmony-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 11668 invoked by uid 500); 16 Aug 2006 20:13:39 -0000 Mailing-List: contact harmony-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 11651 invoked by uid 99); 16 Aug 2006 20:13:39 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:13:39 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=10.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: domain of t.p.ellison@gmail.com designates 64.233.162.201 as permitted sender) Received: from [64.233.162.201] (HELO nz-out-0102.google.com) (64.233.162.201) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:13:37 -0700 Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id v1so172928nzb for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:13:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=nX+f/OEfH4XJYU0CNYhGXDcLU6EKlylO5gyQDZ1VLcWZMDO6kPgCly8hlB+poGPueO/o1S1V598jy14PWYiuch1ztWwtFOGoZ8mZTOZN+ZLfgpxRSdrKQpL89yz+IO4IyIQVNVARdcNw0ek58FfdjKM3ttVmFvdxcCaD8hWrASw= Received: by 10.64.148.8 with SMTP id v8mr1244028qbd; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:13:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?9.26.194.129? ( [199.246.40.54]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e16sm515302qba.2006.08.16.13.13.12; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:13:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <44E37C57.8040001@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 21:13:11 +0100 From: Tim Ellison User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [general] compatibility packages References: <20060812124255.GA23610@pogo.kaffe.org> <636fd28e0608121557p1bf40fefgad6244bc378d1a73@mail.gmail.com> <44DFABC2.4050300@pobox.com> <636fd28e0608131659r930f212p600fe7db5e0318a8@mail.gmail.com> <44DFCF77.6000805@pobox.com> <636fd28e0608140103u6234f61fyb15453319a1747d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <636fd28e0608140103u6234f61fyb15453319a1747d@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N I might have chosen to phrase it slightly differently, but yes IBM licenses the Sun code, so the sun.* packages in an IBM JRE come from the same original source (modulo any IBM applied changes). Regards, Tim Alex Blewitt wrote: > On 14/08/06, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: >> >> 3) Clearly there's value in providing these [sun.* classes], as other >> implementations >> (BEA, IBM, Apple) include them. > > Possibly true, but for different reasons. They license the source code > bulk from Sun, not re-implement their own. (They have patches etc. > that sit on top of them, of course.) As a result, there's a bunch of > internal stuff that is exactly the same as Sun's, and so depends on > the sun.* classes. > > The value (to them) is that they don't have to spend time re-writing > the sun.* classes instead of something else. There's no value > necessarily to the end user; it's a selfish decision on their part, > nothing more. > > Alex. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Terms of use : http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/mailing.html > To unsubscribe, e-mail: harmony-dev-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: harmony-dev-help@incubator.apache.org > > -- Tim Ellison (t.p.ellison@gmail.com) IBM Java technology centre, UK. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Terms of use : http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/mailing.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: harmony-dev-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: harmony-dev-help@incubator.apache.org