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From "Mikhail Loenko" <mloe...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [general] Sun's permission to use exception messages and toString() formats
Date Tue, 18 Jul 2006 11:30:17 GMT
I think all that means that we will accept patches that fix the messages and
toStrings

Thanks,
Mikhail

2006/7/17, Geir Magnusson Jr <geir@pobox.com>:
>
>
> Alexey Petrenko wrote:
> > I do not think that we really need to rewrite all the toString messages.
> > I suggest to update them as needed. For example if somebody will
> > discover that some important application depends on it...
>
> The problem with that approach is that you are letting your users find
> problems that you actually know are there.
>
> As I said in another note, I don't think we should drop everything to do
> this, but we *should* agree to do it lazily, track what has been fixed,
> and offer it as something that new people who want to get engaged in the
> project can do as well.
>
> geir
>
> >
> > SY, Alexey
> >
> > 2006/7/17, Richard Liang <richard.liangyx@gmail.com>:
> >> Good news! So we can output the same message if possible. Not sure
> >> whether we need to update all of us toStrings? Any comments?
> >>
> >> Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
> >> > Sun, via Graham Hamilton (my favorite Sun Fellow), has stated the
> >> > following :
> >> >
> >> >    Sun has no objections to Harmony (or other TCK-compliant Java SE
> >> >    implementations) using the same exception messages and toString
> >> >    formats as the Sun implementation of Java SE.
> >> >
> >> > Further, as a personal comment, he added :
> >> >
> >> >     Keep in mind that since these messages and formats are not part of
> >> >     the Java SE specifications, Sun may occasionally change the
> >> messages
> >> >     and formats it uses.  We tend to be cautious in doing that, so as
> >> >     not to impact applications, but it isn't ruled out.
> >> >
> >> > Also, it should be noted that in the APIs where Doug Lea or Josh Bloch
> >> > had a major influence, there's a good change that the toString() format
> >> > *is* defined in the spec.  For example, see HashMap (via AbstractMap).
> >> > The point is that while it hasn't been done consistently throughout the
> >> > entire API, it's well understood by some that people depend on these
> >> > things, and one should be careful about changing them.
> >> >
> >> > geir
> >> >
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> >>
> >> --
> >> Richard Liang
> >> China Software Development Lab, IBM
> >>
> >>
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