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Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 11:25:33 -0700
From: "Weldon Washburn" <weldonwjw@gmail.com>
To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Fwd: [DRLVM] proposal to port MMTK to drlvm
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Weldon Washburn <weldonwjw@gmail.com>
Date: May 24, 2006 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: [DRLVM] proposal to port MMTK to drlvm
To: danielf@cs.unm.edu


On 5/24/06, Daniel Feinberg <csdread@gmail.com> wrote:
> that is cool, so the other thing i was thinking about is that MMTK is
> written for JikesRVM which is a meta-circular java implementation. AKA
> it is written in java with some magic for the low level mem stuff. I
> am not sure how that would integrate into Harmoney and the DRLVM. I
> dont think it would be hard to port it to another language or we could
> write some sort of interface to bridge the two. Not sure what are your
> ideas?

hmm.... somewhere I heard that MMTK had been ported to Microsoft
Rotor.  I know Rotor is a vm written in C/C++.  If this port is under
an Apache agreeable license, then we could look at this code.  If no
MMTK-to-C interface that is compatible with Apache license exists
then, of course, we will need to build one.  My preference would be to
keep it the interface combinations to C and Java.  I would rather not
bog down MMTK/HarmonyDRLVM with any C++ distractions initially.  I
think the initial focus is functionality, cleaning up the C interface,
then performance.

>
> On 5/24/06, Weldon Washburn <weldonwjw@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 5/24/06, Daniel Feinberg <csdread@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > yes that would be fine. Do you use skype or another communication
> > > service.
> > I don't have skype installed.  However, if the phone call is around
> > the US, I have cell phone and land line that don't have long distance
> > fees.  I will send phone numbers to you directly.
> >
> > That way we can talk about this kind of stuff.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 5/24/06, Weldon Washburn <weldonwjw@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Daniel,
> > > >
> > > > I really appreciate your offer to help.  On the surface, our
> > > > backgrounds are complementary.  I know very little about MMTK.
> > > > However, I know something about the Harmony project and the DRLVM that
> > > > was donated to Harmony.
> > > >
> > > > I plan to download MMTK source code soon and take a look so that I can
> > > > ask you intelligent questions.  It would be great if you have the time
> > > > to download Harmony DRLVM source and also have a look.
> > > >
> > > >    Thanks
> > > >         Weldon
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 5/23/06, Daniel Feinberg <csdread@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > I would like to help. I have experiance with MMTK as i did research
> > > > > with it for a long time in the DeCapo Group with Darko S. at UNM.
> > > > >
> > > > > Let me know what i can do. I dont have much experiance with Harmony
> > > > > but i dont know if that will matter.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 5/24/06, Weldon Washburn <weldonwjw@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Folks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There were several interesting email chains about Harmony VM and MMTK
> > > > > > last year.  This topic died in large part because there was no JVM.
> > > > > > Since then, several JVMs have been donated.  I volunteer to do an
> > > > > > initial investigation of porting MMTK to the recent DRLVM donation.
> > > > > > From a quick grep of the code, it appears that write barriers are only
> > > > > > partially implemented.  We will need to make write barriers functional
> > > > > > before many of the features of MMTK can be used.   Thoughts?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     Weldon
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Weldon Washburn
> > > > > > Intel Middleware Products Division
> > > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Daniel Feinberg
> > > > > http://www.cs.unm.edu/~danielf
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Weldon Washburn
> > > > Intel Middleware Products Division
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Daniel Feinberg
> > > http://www.cs.unm.edu/~danielf
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Weldon Washburn
> > Intel Middleware Products Division
> >
>
>
> --
> Daniel Feinberg
> http://www.cs.unm.edu/~danielf
>


--
Weldon Washburn
Intel Middleware Products Division


-- 
Weldon Washburn
Intel Middleware Products Division

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