Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-harmony-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 89805 invoked from network); 18 May 2006 17:24:11 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 18 May 2006 17:24:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 14999 invoked by uid 500); 18 May 2006 17:24:07 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-harmony-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 14953 invoked by uid 500); 18 May 2006 17:24:07 -0000 Mailing-List: contact harmony-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 14942 invoked by uid 99); 18 May 2006 17:24:07 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 18 May 2006 10:24:07 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=10.0 tests=SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: 64.74.244.71 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of geir@pobox.com) Received: from [64.74.244.71] (HELO chi.mobile-health-diary.com) (64.74.244.71) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Thu, 18 May 2006 10:24:05 -0700 Received: (qmail 9310 invoked from network); 18 May 2006 17:23:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?172.17.135.127?) (geir@208.34.118.101) by b014.internal.mobile-health-diary.com with SMTP; 18 May 2006 17:23:42 -0000 Message-ID: <446CACD9.9000509@pobox.com> Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 10:20:25 -0700 From: Geir Magnusson Jr Reply-To: geir@pobox.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: So today Sun announced... References: <446A100F.6080503@pobox.com> <20060518090355.GC16623@bali.sjc.webweaving.org> In-Reply-To: <20060518090355.GC16623@bali.sjc.webweaving.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Leo Simons wrote: > On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 10:46:55AM -0700, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: > >> So, while many of us knew that Sun will OSS Java eventually, it's still >> good news, and it's nice to see that the Java ecosystem is moving slowly >> but surely to openness :) > > Good on them! You know, 2 years ago I would've pretty much jumped up and > down a little and I'd have gone "whoohooh!". > > But, looking at how harmony is doing and where its going, and also at how > classpath&friends are doing and where they're going, the statement that > the question to ask is not an "if" is just old news for me. *We* know that > already and I think we've been doing real well to get the "how" figured out, > leaving only "when" as The Big Question. > > Here's hoping that this Rich Green fellow comes and asks us the "how" > question, though I hope he's been listening closely already :-) He's a smart guy. I suspect that he already knows what he's going to do. > > In the meantime, lets keep up doing a great job! > I want to add one thing. There *is* something subtly significant here - Sun is now committed to do this. We all knew they had to OSS Java at some point, but Sun still had to recognize this and make this first official step. Jonathan Schwartz has said this before, but not as the CEO, and that is what makes this a major step, to me anyway. geir --------------------------------------------------------------------- Terms of use : http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/mailing.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: harmony-dev-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: harmony-dev-help@incubator.apache.org