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From "Mike Milinkovich" <mike.milinkov...@eclipse.org>
Subject RE: [prayer] to the Eclipse Foundation
Date Thu, 04 May 2006 13:39:32 GMT


Crap....need more coffee this morning.

That should read "...I need to set *your* expectations really low..."
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Milinkovich [mailto:mike.milinkovich@eclipse.org] 
> Sent: May 4, 2006 9:37 AM
> To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org; geir@pobox.com
> Subject: RE: [prayer] to the Eclipse Foundation
> 
> 
> Oops....
> 
> Don't worry! I did not take offence, and didn't mean to imply 
> that I had. I laughed my ass off when I read the prayer.
> 
> Sarcasm is considered good fun in Canada. That's why we're 
> generally funnier than Americans :-)
> 
> I will ask the compiler guys if it's already available 
> somewhere. But given that they're up to their eyeballs in 
> locking everything down for 3.2, I need to set expectations 
> your really low....
> 
> 
> Mike Milinkovich
> Executive Director,
> Eclipse Foundation, Inc.
> Office: 613-224-9461 x228
> Cell: 613-220-3223
> mike.milinkovich@eclipse.org
>  
> blog: http://milinkovich.blogspot.com/
>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Geir Magnusson Jr [mailto:geir@pobox.com]
> > Sent: May 4, 2006 9:23 AM
> > To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: [prayer] to the Eclipse Foundation
> > 
> > There was actually zero sarcasm intended there.  I was just 
> hoping to 
> > get your attention.  I've used this format effectively w/ 
> the JCP as 
> > well. :)
> > 
> > The only comment that I thought might get taken the wrong 
> way was the 
> > "bloat" comment, but from the perspective of being interested in 
> > getting the java compiler and getting in a 100MB download....
> > 
> > So - can we get the Java compiler hosted officially 
> somewhere?  Right 
> > now, for the harmony classlib, we ask people to dig it out of the 
> > eclipse distro, and the contributed build script for the 
> new VM from 
> > Intel does that same thing automatically.  Lots of extra 
> bits floating 
> > through the internets...
> > 
> > I think it would also assist adoption - it would make it easier for 
> > other projects to use it via ant or maven jar fetches.
> > 
> > Of course, if it is already that way somewhere, and I'm 
> just clueless, 
> > I deserve whatever drubbing you can aim my way :)
> > 
> > thx
> > 
> > geir
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Mike Milinkovich wrote:
> > > I've tried parsing the prayer a few times to delete the 
> sarcasm and 
> > > understand exactly what you're asking for, but as with most
> > prayers,
> > > the language appears to be imprecise.
> > > 
> > > What *exactly* is it that you're looking for? 
> > > 
> > > Mike Milinkovich
> > > Executive Director,
> > > Eclipse Foundation, Inc.
> > > Office: 613-224-9461 x228
> > > Cell: 613-220-3223
> > > mike.milinkovich@eclipse.org
> > >  
> > > blog: http://milinkovich.blogspot.com/
> > >  
> > > 
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Geir Magnusson Jr [mailto:geir@pobox.com]
> > >> Sent: May 4, 2006 7:07 AM
> > >> To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > >> Subject: Re: [prayer] to the Eclipse Foundation
> > >>
> > >> Seriously, anyone have any contacts there?  (Church of 
> Eclipse, not
> > >> billygraham...)
> > >>
> > >> Mike, are you around? :)
> > >>
> > >> geir
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Tim Ellison wrote:
> > >>> Dear Harmony Project,
> > >>>
> > >>> I think you are on the wrong mailing list, please try 
> > >>> www.billygraham.org  (or whatever your personal preference).
> > >>>
> > >>> Regards,
> > >>> Tim
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
> > >>>> Oh Mighty Eclipse Foundation,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thou art soest bountiful, we praise your munificence,
> > >> especially that
> > >>>> which compiles the java.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> We beseech thee, in thy mercy, to offer to your lowly
> > >> servants that
> > >>>> which we covet alone in it's beauty, without thy holy 
> bloat, for 
> > >>>> while that which wraps the compiler of java nourishes
> > >> those without
> > >>>> the divine IDEA, we do not deserveth such goodness, 
> nor have the 
> > >>>> richness of time or heavenly bandwidth.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> We ask this humbly, and with averted gaze as befitting
> > our station.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The Harmony Project
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> 
> > 
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