From harmony-dev-return-6103-apmail-incubator-harmony-dev-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Mon Apr 03 13:32:42 2006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-harmony-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 64596 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2006 13:32:40 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 2006 13:32:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 56101 invoked by uid 500); 3 Apr 2006 13:32:36 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-harmony-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 55942 invoked by uid 500); 3 Apr 2006 13:32:36 -0000 Mailing-List: contact harmony-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 55930 invoked by uid 99); 3 Apr 2006 13:32:36 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 03 Apr 2006 06:32:36 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.6 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: 217.158.94.220 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of t.p.ellison@gmail.com) Received: from [217.158.94.220] (HELO cirrus.purplecloud.com) (217.158.94.220) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 03 Apr 2006 06:32:35 -0700 Received: (qmail 93237 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2006 14:32:14 +0100 Received: from blueice2n1.uk.ibm.com (HELO ?9.20.183.160?) (195.212.29.75) by smtp.purplecloud.net with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 3 Apr 2006 14:32:14 +0100 Message-ID: <443123DD.80708@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 14:32:13 +0100 From: Tim Ellison User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Downloading dependencies References: <44311A34.2050002@sablevm.org> In-Reply-To: <44311A34.2050002@sablevm.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N You have a valid point. We used to store the dependencies in our SVN, then there was discussion about redistributing these, so we moved to downloading them. I don't really care where they are hosted (i.e. a JAR repository at Apache or ibiblio or random projects) -- whatever the project mentors think is best practice for the ASF. Regards, Tim Etienne Gagnon wrote: > Hi, > > I've noticed that the build system tends to download external files. > While I see some merit to this, I think that it is not a good approach > in general, as it creates a very fragile build system in the long term. > > Imagine that some bug is discovered in Harmony 25.4. Regressions are > applied against it and historical versions. Versions 24.x, 23.x, 22.x > all exhibit the same bug. Then, ooops!, version 21.7 does not build as > some library dependency can't be satisfied, the remote host has > died/changed URL/etc. > > I can understand that we might not want to store dependency libraries in > the repository (yet, I am not that sure I really understand...). What > prevents us from storing them on the web site? (I guess the web site is > already all in the repository anyway, so storing them in one branch or > another doesn't make much difference other than the difficulty to > checkout the system, then building w/o a network connection...) > > Unless we don't consider building historical versions as being > important, or that a network connection is a hard dependency for > building the system (a source CD wouldn't be sufficient to build)? > > Etienne > > PS: I know, I know... I've got a few other messages to reply to... Just > give me some time. :-) > -- Tim Ellison (t.p.ellison@gmail.com) IBM Java technology centre, UK. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Terms of use : http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/mailing.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: harmony-dev-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: harmony-dev-help@incubator.apache.org