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From "Mikhail Loenko" <mloe...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [classlib] Testing
Date Fri, 28 Apr 2006 06:54:18 GMT
I suggest physically separate high-level suites:

src/test/
       |
       +-  impl/
       |
       +- compliant/    [names might be changed]
       |
       +- stress/
       |
       \- etc/

Then on package-level separate classpath from bootclasspath stuff

1) We will run compliant to validate test suite
2) We will not run stress before commit
3) etc

What do you think?

Thanks,
Mikhail

2006/4/28, Paulex Yang <paulex.yang@gmail.com>:
> Mikhail Loenko wrote:
> > Hi Paulex
> >
> > 2006/4/28, Paulex Yang <paulex.yang@gmail.com>:
> >
> >> Mikhail Loenko wrote:
> >>
> >>> Then how to run only independent tests?
> >>>
> >>> Such a run would make sense to validate the tests or
> >>> if we switch to different RI version
> >>>
> >>>
> >> It should be easy for ant script to identify independent tests by
> >> package name convention, e.g, we have a keyword "API" for the
> >> independent tests (1), and  2 can  be easily excluded.
> >>
> >> For the intended different behavior (4), test can be added to ant's
> >> exclude list (I don't expect there are too many such cases)
> >>
> >
> > Did you count such tests? As I remember we have a lof of them in security.
> >
> >
> Lots of ? Ooops...Seems I didn't understand the situation clearly (I
> knew I must miss sth. ;-) )
> > If these tests are in the same package and in the same directory
> > then we will have something like
> >
> > org.apache.harmony.security.tests.api.java.security.CodeSignerTest1 - impl
> > specific test methods
> >
> > org.apache.harmony.security.tests.api.java.security.CodeSignerTest2 - impl
> > independent test methods
> >
> If there are many similar cases, I agree that it is
> unacceptable(although I think the test case can be named more
> meaningfully than xxxTest1/xxxTest2), because I prefer 1 test for 1
> class in general .  It will be perfect if we can introduce some
> mechanism to control test execution in method level, but I have no good
> idea on this so far.
>
> So do you have any better ideas on this issue?
> > How do you like it?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mikhail
> >
> >
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Mikhail
> >>>
> >>> 2006/4/28, Paulex Yang <paulex.yang@gmail.com>:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Mikhail Loenko wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> And how would you split 1,2,4,5  between these two folders?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> I thought it is obvious.
> >>>> test 1,2,4 goes to src/test
> >>>> test 5 goes to src/impltest (internl/injected/boot anything is fine)
> >>>> and all implementation goes to src/main
> >>>>
> >>>> and they can be compiled to corresponding bin dir, i.e.
> >>>> bin/test
> >>>> bin/impltest
> >>>> bin/main
> >>>>
> >>>> bin/main and bin/impltest goes to bootclasspath
> >>>> bin/test goes to classpath
> >>>>
> >>>> Pls. correct me if I made mistake or missed sth.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> Mikhail
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2006/4/27, Paulex Yang <paulex.yang@gmail.com>:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Mikhail Loenko wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If it's separated, I'm OK with it
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Can you suggest dir names?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> Great!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Either boot or injected(as Mark said) sounds good keyword to
me.  so it
> >>>>>> can be one of below:
> >>>>>> 1. src/test.injected/
> >>>>>> 2. src/test/injected
> >>>>>> 3. src/test.boot/
> >>>>>> 4. src/test/boot
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Mmm...seems injected is more self-descriptive,  I prefer option
1. So
> >>>>>> the layout would be:
> >>>>>> src/main
> >>>>>> src/test
> >>>>>> src/test.injected
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ideas?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>> Mikhail
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 2006/4/27, Paulex Yang <paulex.yang@gmail.com>:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Mikhail Loenko wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The problem is the tests will be mixed like that:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> org.apache.harmony.security.asn1 -- tests in bootclasspath
> >>>>>>>>> org.apache.harmony.security.cert  -- tests in bootclasspath
> >>>>>>>>> org.apache.harmony.security.tests -- tests in classpath
> >>>>>>>>> org.apache.harmony.security.x509 -- tests in bootclasspath
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Good catch! :)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> It's not so hard for script to separate, if the package
name doesn't
> >>>>>>>> contains "test", it belongs to bootclasspath
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> And if you concern about human reading, we can separate
src directory
> >>>>>>>> for them, i.e.
> >>>>>>>> src/main/java
> >>>>>>>> src/test/java
> >>>>>>>> src/boottest/java or src/test/boot/java
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> comments?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>> Mikhail
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 2006/4/27, Paulex Yang <paulex.yang@gmail.com>:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Mikhail Loenko wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Paulex,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> we have at least 8 categories of tests:
> >>>>>>>>>>>     running from classpath or bootclasspath
> >>>>>>>>>>>     implementation specific or independent
> >>>>>>>>>>>     testing org.apache.harmony.* or java.*
> >>>>>>>>>>> Could you please list how all the tests
will be named
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Mikhail,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> OK, let me try. I'm not sure if all 8 categories
are necessary,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> 1. [classpath], [independent], [java.*]
> >>>>>>>>>>       o.a.h.<module name>.tests.api.<package
name>, e.g.,
> >>>>>>>>>> o.a.h.luni.tests.api.java.util is test package
for java.util
> >>>>>>>>>>     I consider the module name is optional and
can be removed, so it can be
> >>>>>>>>>>       o.a.h.tests.api.java.util for java.util
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> 2. [classpath], [dependent], [o.a.h.*]
> >>>>>>>>>>      o.a.h.<module name>.tests.<package
name without o.a.h...prefix>,
> >>>>>>>>>> e.g., o.a.h.luni.tests.util is test package
for o.a.h.luni.util
> >>>>>>>>>>    Again, the module name is optional, but if
module name is not
> >>>>>>>>>> prefix, it should be part of package name, so
it is:
> >>>>>>>>>>       o.a.h.tests.luni.util for o.a.h.luni.util
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> 3. [classpath], [independent], [o.a.h.*]
> >>>>>>>>>>    I don't expect these classes/tests exist.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> 4. [classpath], [dependent], [java.*]
> >>>>>>>>>>    if my understanding is correct, this category
means the tests for
> >>>>>>>>>> intended different behavior between Harmony
and RI, I consider these
> >>>>>>>>>> tests should be put in same package with API
tests, and separate them by
> >>>>>>>>>> running script instead of different package,
because RI may fix bug in
> >>>>>>>>>> the revision later(e.g, Sun JDK 1.5.1 maybe?),
and IIRC in another
> >>>>>>>>>> thread we have agreed that we always follow
latest version of RI, so it
> >>>>>>>>>> will be much easier to change the different
behavior tests to API tests
> >>>>>>>>>> if we use script to separate them, and vice
versa.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> 5. [bootclasspath],
> >>>>>>>>>>    which covers 4 categories you mentioned,
the test cases are in same
> >>>>>>>>>> package with implementions
> >>>>>>>>>>       e.g.
> >>>>>>>>>>       java.util is test package for java.util
> >>>>>>>>>>          and
> >>>>>>>>>>       o.a.h.luni.util is test packag for o.a.h.luni.util
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> As a summary, we'll have four kind of test packages:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> a. o.a.h.<module>.tests.api.java.*** 
for case 1,4 above
> >>>>>>>>>> b. o.a.h.<module>.tests.***  for case
2 above
> >>>>>>>>>> c. java.***, for case 5 above
> >>>>>>>>>> d. o.a.h.***, for case 5 above
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> comments?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>> Mikhail
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> 2006/4/27, Paulex Yang <paulex.yang@gmail.com>:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Mikhail Loenko wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Geir,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem is that no one yet suggested
a consistent solution
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> that would fit for all the tests
and would not get into packages like
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.harmony.security.tests.org.apache.harmony.security.util
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Everybody seems to agree that SOME
implementation specific tests are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> in the same package as implementation.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> But if we have ALL the tests in
the same package as implementation,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> then we can't run e.g. tests against
java.beans.Beans from classpath, so
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> we can't run regression test for
HARMONY-358
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The question is where we put 'classpath'
 test. If we put them into
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> o.a.h.module.tests.[package under
test] we result in that ugly package
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> names like
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> o.a.h.security.tests.o.a.h.security.util
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Mikhail,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Why my prior proposal that o.a.h.security.tests.impl.util
is unacceptable?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> And I have no objection if "impl" considered
redundant, too.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikhail
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2006/4/27, Geir Magnusson Jr <geir@pobox.com>:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George Harley wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>  >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course, the text
module has only "implementation-independent tests
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that designed to be
run from classpath". For modules that have got
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implementation-specific
tests then I suppose we could use something
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like "org.apache.harmony.[module].tests.impl.[package
under test]" or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "org.apache.harmony.[module].tests.internal.[package
under test]" etc.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've got no preference.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -1
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Put them in the same package
as the class being tested, please, if there
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is no problem being run
that way.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry to be so snippy.  Been
a long day.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why would we want this convoluted
package name?  Why wouldn't we want to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> let them be in the same package
as the class being tested since it's
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> implementation testing?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> geir
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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