Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-harmony-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 11766 invoked from network); 23 Mar 2006 23:19:08 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 23 Mar 2006 23:19:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 16049 invoked by uid 500); 23 Mar 2006 23:19:05 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-harmony-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 15737 invoked by uid 500); 23 Mar 2006 23:19:04 -0000 Mailing-List: contact harmony-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 15720 invoked by uid 99); 23 Mar 2006 23:19:04 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 15:19:04 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=10.0 tests=SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: 64.74.244.71 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of geir@pobox.com) Received: from [64.74.244.71] (HELO chi.mobile-health-diary.com) (64.74.244.71) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 15:19:03 -0800 Received: (qmail 14970 invoked from network); 23 Mar 2006 23:18:40 -0000 Received: from dysprosium.priorityevents.net (HELO ?10.1.0.186?) (geir@128.64.165.126) by b014.internal.mobile-health-diary.com with SMTP; 23 Mar 2006 23:18:40 -0000 Message-ID: <44232C6F.4050706@pobox.com> Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 15:17:03 -0800 From: Geir Magnusson Jr Reply-To: geir@pobox.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Unit testing revisited References: <6e47b64f0603230200l3ebdbb76p289b1011bd1e76d4@mail.gmail.com> <442312BD.3010909@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <442312BD.3010909@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N George Harley wrote: > > I don't want an argument any more than the next person but ... I > completely agree with the above statement. If you can't test code by > going through the public API then how will the users ever get to > exercise it in the "real world" ? > The key is that we aren't suggesting we don't test code by the public API - we have to do that. But rather, we need to ALSO test the internals w/o going through the public API.... geir