Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-harmony-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 80144 invoked from network); 23 Mar 2006 22:13:37 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 23 Mar 2006 22:13:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 3246 invoked by uid 500); 23 Mar 2006 22:12:35 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-harmony-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 3187 invoked by uid 500); 23 Mar 2006 22:12:34 -0000 Mailing-List: contact harmony-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 3176 invoked by uid 99); 23 Mar 2006 22:12:34 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 14:12:34 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [69.9.190.6] (HELO lox.whirlycott.com) (69.9.190.6) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 14:12:34 -0800 Received: (qmail 14258 invoked by uid 1016); 23 Mar 2006 22:12:12 -0000 Received: from 70.36.208.192 by lox.whirlycott.com (envelope-from , uid 1009) with qmail-scanner-1.25 (clamdscan: 0.87.1/1179. Clear:RC:1(70.36.208.192):. Processed in 0.070796 secs); 23 Mar 2006 22:12:12 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: stefano@apache.org via lox.whirlycott.com X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.25 (Clear:RC:1(70.36.208.192):. Processed in 0.070796 secs) Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.104?) (stefano@ormaz.it@70.36.208.192) by lox.whirlycott.com with ESMTPA; 23 Mar 2006 22:12:12 -0000 Message-ID: <44231D3B.2080602@apache.org> Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 14:12:11 -0800 From: Stefano Mazzocchi Organization: Apache Software Foundation User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Macintosh/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org CC: Cliff Schmidt Subject: Re: SableVM? -- ICLA details References: <442168FC.1020208@sablevm.org> <4421A3B6.1060007@pobox.com> <44224CE8.1030308@sablevm.org> <20060323090021.GB1464@bali.sjc.webweaving.org> <4422BF83.5000706@sablevm.org> In-Reply-To: <4422BF83.5000706@sablevm.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Etienne Gagnon wrote: > 5- The ASF provides me with an official, legally binding document, > signed by officers that have sufficient rights to do so, stating that > it will only sub-license (distribute, etc.) code contributed by SableVM > authors (can be identified specifically) and derivatives of this code, > under licenses that require explicit acknowledgment of the copyright > of these authors and that require redistribution of the related text > found in the NOTICE file. [I have no trouble letting the ASF lawyers > come up with some text proposal. I would highly suggest reusing words > off the Apache License 2.0 to do so. I can even propose some text, if > you wish me to do so.] > > 6- Each ICLA and Software Grant has an explicit hand written reference > to the ASF document in "5-" beside the signature(s). A copy of the > ASF document in "5-" is added as an appendix to the ICLA/SG in your > records and our records. With my Board Director hat on: I believe that it is a bug that the current ICLA gives the ASF enough power to relicense something without acknowledging who donated it to us. I would be in favor of changing the ICLA more than to sign an ad-hoc statement like the one you propose. With my Harmony hat on: I would like this to move as fast as we can and I don't know which one of the options is faster. Cliff, are you watching this? any comment? -- Stefano.