Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-harmony-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 90070 invoked from network); 23 Mar 2006 07:23:57 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 23 Mar 2006 07:23:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 27587 invoked by uid 500); 23 Mar 2006 07:23:47 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-harmony-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 27515 invoked by uid 500); 23 Mar 2006 07:23:47 -0000 Mailing-List: contact harmony-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 27477 invoked by uid 99); 23 Mar 2006 07:23:46 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 23:23:46 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [66.11.181.4] (HELO griffin.griffaction.ca) (66.11.181.4) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 23:23:45 -0800 Received: from perseval.info.uqam.ca ([132.208.137.96]) by griffin.griffaction.ca with esmtp (Exim 4.50 #1 (Debian)) id 1FMKAG-0001qF-Dc for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 02:23:24 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by perseval.info.uqam.ca with esmtp (Exim 4.50 #1 (Debian)) id 1FMKAF-0007JD-O6 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 02:23:23 -0500 Message-ID: <44224CE8.1030308@sablevm.org> Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 02:23:20 -0500 From: Etienne Gagnon User-Agent: Debian Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20051010) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Contributing SableVM? References: <442168FC.1020208@sablevm.org> <4421A3B6.1060007@pobox.com> In-Reply-To: <4421A3B6.1060007@pobox.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.91.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig72268631489E8DCB96F736D2" X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N --------------enig72268631489E8DCB96F736D2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Geir, > b) hopefully an ICLA from each contributor The ICLA rules are less restrictive than the Apache License rules: 2. Grant of Copyright License. Subject to the terms and conditions of this Agreement, You hereby grant to the Foundation and to recipients of software distributed by the Foundation a perpetual, worldwide, non-exclusive, no-charge, royalty-free, irrevocable copyright license to reproduce, prepare derivative works of, publicly display, publicly perform, sublicense, and distribute Your Contributions and such derivative works. Unless I missed something, this not force the ASF to abide by the Apache License 2.0 rules. So, for example, the ASF could sublicense derivatives of our work under any license it wants, without even acknowledging our contribution in a NOTICE file. Most SableVM authors do not agree to allow derivative works not to clearly aknowledge their contribution. This is our only real retribution for the work we contribute. I understand that it is critical, for the ASF, to design new licenses, but rule "2." above seems too permissive, at first sight. Have I missed something? Etienne -- Etienne M. Gagnon, Ph.D. http://www.info2.uqam.ca/~egagnon/ SableVM: http://www.sablevm.org/ SableCC: http://www.sablecc.org/ --------------enig72268631489E8DCB96F736D2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEIkzojyrJi4rH84gRAk5TAJ9KsyS4W4APpU/8SndyxGP0IAwrmgCfQBCH QveOoXYxWDPsd+4GNGtanNg= =Dm6E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig72268631489E8DCB96F736D2--